There's this huge spider that showed up and built a web right over the door of my workplace a few days ago. I've been keeping an eye on him but constantly advocating leaving him alone because he's not even a dangerous kind of spider. Well tonight he got offended by a new person standing in the doorway and tried to descend right onto their head, so I decided he was no longer welcome here and had to go. So I got this really powerful spider poison out, I've seen someone hit a black widow with it and it dropped out of its web instantly.
I sprayed it, and it descended on a web to try to escape the poison. And I sprayed it and sprayed it and sprayed it again. It climbed back up, descended down again, crawled up the wall, ran all around. It was awful, and I was starting to freak out. It's obvious how much it seriously did not want to die. I kept on spraying until I got a blister on my finger and I'm still fucking shaking.
How the hell do "people" kill for a living? How can you be a carnist? How soulless do you have to be to be okay with killing? This has ruined my whole night and it was one fucking bug killed in self defense.
There has never once been a "non-dangerous spider" or even a dangerous looking one 9 feet away I have ever saw any reason to use a toxic chemical to murder.
"I was so scared of this spider 9 feet outside the door to my workplace I had to grab a can of carcinogenic chemicals to hose down my workplace front door with to kill it in "self defense".
Mate, chill. Even if it was a lie, someone getting overly sensitive about killing a bug it's pretty common even among non-vegan people so it doesn't work as bait.
Like, someone going "ha! I made up a story about someone very sensitive and hexbear believed it" it's very ineffect8ve "trolling". Like, yeah, small things sometimes trigger very bad feelings. It happens.
you're right, I just was a biology major and one of the things I watched happen in real time was the mass extinction of many species to pesticide use in the US while doing field studies over the years and so I get a bit uh worked up over their over use. I apologized to them too.
The spider's bite was not dangerous but the situation it created most certainly was
And I am calling bullshit on that and everything else you have said because I grew up around tons of different spiders some dangerous some not and you're making up a justification. If you feel bad feel bad and not try to justify using a super toxic chemical that has harmful effects on not only the spider.
Also how exactly did you spray this spider from 9 feet away? All of this sounds like bullshit.
I did what I had to do, there really was not a nonviolent option here.
And I sprayed it 9 feet away because the sprayer is really strong, if you're imagining a can that is not what I'm talking about.
I don't believe this actually happened and even if it did there definitely was.
Please explain how you would prevent the described situation from occurring again without using violence.
This really sounds like something HR would ask to cover their ass.
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"Please explain how you would prevent the described situation from occurring again without using violence."
Ah, I get it.
Funny how he never did explain it though. His solution was just "ignore the spider, let it happen again"
Put the spider in a container?
What container? I'm at work, I don't have cups and bowls and whatnot lying around.
How do I put it in the container when it's web is way up over the door
Use a broom? Idk I will do ridiculous shit to save insects.
I might have been able to get to it with a broom, I'm not 100% sure on that. I will try it if I run into a similar situation. But I hope I never do
Just leaving it the fuck alone it was 9 feet away. You're the one that took the initiative to spray harmful chemicals all over the entrance to kill it when it was just chilling in its web, if someone else killed it that's not on you and I have never ever heard of a spider related traffic death so like I said I am calling bullshit.
Yeah leaving it alone would definitely prevent it from descending onto someone again. Nice answer.
It was just chilling in its web in the same way that someone who just took a potshot at you through your window is "just chilling on the street"
Oh god oh fuck the spiders are armed now?
Why are you trolling?
Because you very clearly are.
Like you literally just compared a spider to some sort of malicious gunman. This is so laughably obvious fuck off.
I mean yeah you've obviously decided that from the moment you misread my post and got yourself all worked up about it but I've been posting here actively for months and I'm not a troll so you're literally just being an asshole to another user for absolutely no reason and hopefully when you look back on this conversation in a few hours you'll feel bad about that
No just find it highly suspicious when an extremely implausible story boohooing over how you had to kill a harmless animal is your only post in the vegan comm
I just don't often make posts dude, I comment in the vegan comm plenty when it gets posts. And I posted it here so I could avoid carnists just going "lol its just a spider stop being weird" but instead I had to deal with Mr Sherlock McReddit attacking me anyway
You're the one that in your original post said you had previously used cancerous insecticides before. Also: https://hexbear.net/comment/3447015
Why do you keep making stuff up? I have never said anything like that. If you mean the black widow I said this poison killed instantly, that was by a coworker that I was actively telling not to kill the spider and to leave it alone.
You coulda just not kept spraying it? I don't know it all just sounds extremely implausible and begging for forgiveness which is not what this channel is for. You killed the spider and you relentlessly pursued it to do so using a chemical that nobody should ever use. I don't know what else to tell you.
I was pretty sure the spider was going to die either way after the first spray so I wanted to make sure it died as quickly as possible rather than slowly and horribly. It's so weird to frame that as "relentlessly pursuing it."
And I'm not begging for forgiveness because I did nothing to be forgiven for. The point of the post is that while killing in self defense is morally justified it still feels horrible.
shoulda just smashed it instead of spraying cancerous chemicals all over your workplace door that's all I am saying if you actually believe any of what you are saying or if any of it is true that is.
I am also denying that this was in any way "self defense". Come on you know that's bullshit. If you're truly remorseful it could only be because you know what you did was wrong instead of continually trying to justify what you in your initial post stated you thought was not dangerous.
That is why this feels like bait.
I agree. It's not that simple which is why I went for the poison anyway but if I had known the poison would work like that I would have found another way.
Dude you've already called me a liar like 10 different times over various "contradictions" which every time just turned out to be you not knowing how to read. I do not care what you deny, you've lost any credibility already.
You literally just called it self defense.
Before that you called it defense of a coworker which was also bullshit.
I know I did, because it was. When I warned the lady about the spider currently descending onto her head she stepped straight into the middle of the road. That's a dangerous situation created by the spider.
No I didn't because none of my coworkers were involved in this story. You still don't know how to read.
sounds like a dangerous situation created by you not just going to grab the thing or brushing it off of her, again I find every part of this story to be an excuse for using bug spray on a harmless critter and contaminating the area with a deadly chemical.
I'm not going to grab a massive fucking unidentified spider with my bare hands holy shit what is wrong with you
Now it's massive and unidentified? Thought you said it was not dangerous? So it was definitely identified or was it not?
BTW, "massive" spiders do not build webs.
I have said many times here that I could not 100% ID the spider but that I believed it not to have dangerous venom. Why are you still lying about literally everything I say?