there's always a post with like 300+ comments at the top full of leftist infighting

  • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    it's not helped that we do occasionally choose to phrase our opinions on the current topic in the most inflammatory manner possible lol

    • HamManBad [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I have this problem whenever I talk to my dad. I could make things accessible and try to come to an understanding. But I always choose my words in a way that will provoke him, even if it's essentially a benign topic. We're even on good terms, it makes no sense for me to do it. I blame this site.

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        oh god i recognize myself in this comment. i can't blame this site though, i think it's just that some of us have a contrarian streak a mile long.

        really, if anything i'd say that's a contributing factor to us being here in the first place rather than a result of hanging out here but shrug-outta-hecks either way we could stand to chill out a bit

        • Kuori [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          grand irony of ironies, i literally did it just downthread

          someone fucking put me out of my misery jesus christ

  • solaranus
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    1 year ago

    deleted by creator

  • Deadend [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    The threads are also never entertaining and painfully pedantic.

    They make me want to scream when i read, but doing so would contribute to it.

    Glad those threads act to keep the most annoying posting habits contained.

  • riseuppikmin [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Sorting by hot is a much better experience and I recommend everyone to change your default sort in settings to it

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    leftist infighting

    Some of that, but a lot more of it is wrecker shit with mysterious "posting vague attempts to fit in" new accounts popping up every day. sus-soviet

  • Bjork_shhh [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    struggle session

    woke neoliberals believe that "my individual freedom to make my own personal consumer choices is true liberation" which explains their constant unending fear of radical critiques

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Let people enjoy things, especially things that hurt other people and/or the environment in general. That's how important screwing around with river rocks is. very-intelligent

      • PissWarlock [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Leave no trace! except for fortifying river beds, that doesn’t count because I enjoy it.

  • FutureLandstacy [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Always been a new poster on every form of social media.

    It's entirely on you all if you're unable to have a dialectic online, sorry. Way more time and space than anyone had in the age of illiteracy and letter delivery. There's nothing inherent to the internet that makes it unproductive. Look at Weibo, they drag multinational corporations into the courts with posting alone.

    Lurking only briefly I've noticed everyone has to spend much of their day explaining entirely obvious shit about what they're saying?

    • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Look at Weibo, they drag multinational corporations into the courts with posting alone.

      I'd like to know more. im-doing-my-part

      • FutureLandstacy [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        https://archive.ph/9NnP8

        Lenovo was betraying the spirit of economic reform and opening up 💀 ☠️

        Bullshitting because this was described to me in a discord call but it makes sense when you have a functioning (read: communist) legal system that being internet enemy number one has actual consequences right?

      • AlkaliMarxist
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        1 year ago

        Posting bait in a thread about arguing, very droll.

          • barrbaric [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Since you seem to be a new user and might not be aware, Bjork_shhh is the latest in a long line of alts of the user BlackMoldFutures (aka BMF), and they are not to be taken seriously. All of their posts and comments are one of two things:

            1. Ridiculous word salad with lots of buzzwords (PMC karens is the big one, these days they seem to be on a "farms are communism" kick). It's unclear if these are meant to be a bit or sincere.
            2. Anti-anarchist sectarianism that gets them immediately banned.
          • Kuori [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            that goofy aside about baristas is kind of a hot button topic (albeit one imported from twitter rather than an issue i see here too much)

              • Kuori [she/her]
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                1 year ago

                apologies, i don't think i was clear. their shittastic opinion that baristas somehow aren't working class is some twitter garbage that got dragged in here. you don't generally see it bc it doesn't last long before it gets taken out, hence my parenthetical

                • FutureLandstacy [none/use name]
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                  1 year ago

                  No, no, what was the barista flame war about?

                  Doesn't make sense to say they're posting bait by saying baristas are working class. That's just true

                  And now they removed it?

                  • Kuori [she/her]
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                    1 year ago

                    the whole barista thing is a debate that iirc started on patsoc twitter with them making the claim that baristas are not working class (because patsocs are morons)

                    the user who had their comment removed was saying that baristas are working class sarcastically bc, i guess, they have taken those brainworms in

                    more generally, they're known for unhinged posting in a very specific style that eventually ends up crossing the line one way or another (usually sectarianism, sometimes dumb shit like the anti-barista stuff)

                    • FutureLandstacy [none/use name]
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                      1 year ago

                      Alright well at least you aren't a bunch of babies who leave dumb replies on More Perfect Union posts I guess

                      • Kuori [she/her]
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                        1 year ago

                        i genuinely have no idea what you're talking about or what your deal is, ngl, but i'm happy you're happy i guess

                        • FutureLandstacy [none/use name]
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                          1 year ago

                          Translation: I am happy that you are supportive of the Starbucks union, duh. Don't you think removing a comment that says baristas are workers is disconcerting without context? Now I have context

                          • Kuori [she/her]
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                            1 year ago

                            gotcha, gotcha. sorry, i didn't think about it out of context bc i had seen something similar but more explicit from them removed a bit earlier so their comment read clearly to me as sarcastic

            • FutureLandstacy [none/use name]
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              1 year ago

              This is such a sussy thing to say like do you argue that baristas are not working class in here? Let me at em!

      • FutureLandstacy [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        https://twitter.com/EFFSouthAfrica/status/1673625713642012674

        Well to ease your mind heres the Economic Freedom Fighters using the internet to discuss farming

        Youre right but there's nothing about it that forces you to act like an e-socialist

        They're doing it on purpose and blaming the computer

  • Owl [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    This happened when the site was first launched, too. The original dev team messed with it to make it more reasonable.

    I know there's at least one "old thread sticking around" bug that's getting fixed in the next version, but I don't think the core problems are getting any improvements right now.

    The core issue with "hot" seems to be that hot_rank is kind of a stupid function (log(votes)/age^1.8), which overwhelmingly prefers newness.

    I think "active" is just hot_rank with the time since the last comment, instead of the time since post. And since hot_rank overwhelmingly prefers newest, it's basically just "time since last comment." Which, as anybody who posted on PHPBBs back in the day knows, is going to favor flame wars and forum games.

    I've been tempted to go fix it, but it's a little subjective, and I have no idea what kind of argument I'd need to put forth on a pull request to get them to actually listen to it.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      I've been tempted to go fix it, but it's a little subjective, and I have no idea what kind of argument I'd need to put forth on a pull request to get them to actually listen to it.

      I think what's needed is for them to add MANY different ones and then let communities trial them until finding the ones they like vs the ones that don't work.

      I am pretty certain that reddit internally weights subreddits when they like them or dislike them, which improves or harms their time spent on /r/all. This is obviously something that federation can not do because there needs to be a certain amount of fairness.

      One thing the "activity" one does put in our favour however is the fact that once federated Hexbear's visibility will be monumental because everyone here is a bigger poster than everyone everywhere else.

      • Owl [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Introducing "warm": it's literally the same thing as hot, but it's weighted as votes/age without any weird scaling factors

  • heartheartbreak [fae/faer]
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    1 year ago

    It's designed in the way reddit is to increase struggle and bait to increase interactions. DO NOT interact. look away put ur phone down close the tab do something joyful spend time w ur loved ones never get angry because of the internet just walk away.