The Enhanced Games is organizing an alternative to the corrupt Olympic Games. The first sports event without drug testing.

https://nitter.1d4.us/enhanced_games/status/1670862210132738073

  • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    i guess it depends how good the drugs are and if they do other stuff like blood doping, oxygen tents etc.

    • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Idk. I feel like if you take me and load me up with all the drugs and whatever any of that other stuff is, I'm still going to lose to your average high school track star in a sprint. I feel like if you gave the track star a bunch of PEDs they'll still lose to a top level Olympic athlete. I guess if you give the drugs to someone who's already a high level contender, it could give them an edge, but it's not like this stuff turns you into a Terminator or something.

      Something like this would need years of effort going into developing insane new drugs, techniques, and science fiction tier augmentations to build truly mindblowingly better athletes. If we see anything this year it'll be a record or two getting shaved down by a hundredth of a second, and then everyone just gets bored and it goes nowhere.

      Maybe I'm wrong though, I don't know shit about this sort of thing, and would love to be better educated on the types of measurable performance gains that are possible.

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        The thing with PEDs is that it completely changes the way you train. You can do lower rep, higher weight exercises and see even better results, but it also become even more important to do proper stretching and rollouts, pressure and aftercare recovery techniques. Endurance exercises can go for much longer as well.

        The reason for this is because what PEDs normally do is drastically improve your recovery ability, and what that means in practice is that it is very easy to recover badly, excaterbate bad positional habits and just downright make your muscles look weird.

        • notceps [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Nah we know pretty well that for a top athlete taking PEDs, at least in strength sport, means a rough 10% increase in performance. People that talk about what PEDs do haven't looked at just how 'naturally roided' top athletes already are. A lot of the very vocal US athletes that say that they don't use drugs unlike the 'shifty chinese' and 'cheating russians' wouldn't be able to compete even with PEDs.

          Like the whole "Oh the chinese and russians are only outcompeting us because of steroids" is a massive cope that it warps peoples view on what PEDs do.

          • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            Yeah, I'm not even talking about performance, that is a muscle density problem, which PEDs only do so much for. Generally speaking I am talking about body-building, where basically everybody is on PED's but their muscle to strength ratio is usually crap. As Zazz used to say, it's about the aesthetic, not the lift.

      • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        i don't think they're selling "couch to olympic records", PEDs help you train harder faster and recover more quickly so you can train more. Sitting on ass and gearing up isn't gonna do much for us but if you give 16 year olds drugs and a decent training regimen they'll beat the shit out of college athletes without drugs.

        Runners hit their peaks later than gymnasts so if this thing gets started and sticks around then we'll probably see mediocre highschool runners pushing into the low end of olympic qualifier times with a few years of training+drugs. Maybe 10th place guys in college competitions could make record pushes.

      • GaveUp [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        but it's not like this stuff turns you into a Terminator or something.

        If any drugs are legal, there are many that would turn you into a Terminator. I think people are thinking too limited here

        Meth, in particular. Maybe even LSD depending on the person

        Obviously, training on meth should be done in extremely limited amounts but give an athlete a high dose on the day of and they'll easily be able to push past far beyond normal human limits

        • Farman [any]
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          1 year ago

          Often i cant sleep. Abd somtimes i have to work the next day. So i take a modafinil or caffeine tablets or in extreame cases put a bit of coke in the tea. When i have to do fisically demanding things in those conditions somtimes i go blind for a lityle while due to lack of oxigen. So i dont think ot would work for athletes.

          • GaveUp [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            Those all work so well for me I work with no pain or exhaustion and wake up the next day with my forearms completely torn up and useless lol

            • Farman [any]
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              1 year ago

              So you have never lost your sigth even for a bit? Its not exactly a blackout but ratger multiple tiny mulicolored dots obstruct your vision for a second or 2. Mostly green white and pink. Very brigth dots.

              Maybe there is something wrong with my lungs..

              • GaveUp [she/her]
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                1 year ago

                Maybe you're forgetting to breathe because you're focusing too intensely while stimmed? That's happened to me before but not while doing physical activity, just studying

                • Farman [any]
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                  1 year ago

                  I dont think so. Its usually more like i have to lift or push this thing. The i do and the vission is gone for a second. Its very short intervals usually when doing fisical activity.

                  • GaveUp [she/her]
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                    1 year ago

                    Sounds like that's from the sleep deprivation then tbh

                    • Farman [any]
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                      1 year ago

                      Hopefully. Sitll id be careful with taking to many uppers before excercising.

        • Des [she/her, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          my veins and heart hurts just thinking about doing any intense physical activity on meth