So following the whole german thing they did have a news brief today and it's about 20 minutes of them dodging the question looking extremely incompetent and getting somewhat agitated I might actually do some translations of that segment but for people who can speak german here ya go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRl3X5nN4R4
Translation might happen but I am busy so could also just not happen...
Edit: Ate something doing a few comments from the start so might pick it up again at some point
Herr Jung: Mr. Wagner, before we move on to the appointments, I’d like to address the topic of the International Criminal Court because it has been signaled as a matter of significant interest.
Wagner: Mr. Jung, you may start.
J: I read your press release regarding this arrest warrant, and it states that the federal government will carefully examine the domestic steps to be taken. However, this leaves open whether the federal government considers the decision of the International Criminal Court binding. Could you clarify this?
W: I don’t need to clarify it; I can simply refer to what’s stated in the declaration.
J: Yes, but the declaration doesn’t include what you told us here, for example, in May. Back then, you said Germany would, of course, implement all decisions of the International Criminal Court and abide by law and order. That was clear in May. Today’s statement, however, doesn’t include that, whereas other European states have explicitly said this arrest warrant will be implemented.
W: I can still only refer to what is stated in this declaration, and that stands.
J: Mr. Hebestreit, on the same topic, can one interpret this as the federal government doing everything to prevent a situation where an Israeli minister—such as Prime Minister Netanyahu—could be arrested in Germany? That’s how it reads.
Hebestreit: That is an interpretation you are drawing from the text. I refer to the text itself, and that forms the basis of our actions.
J: Perhaps I could ask again: why is it so difficult for the federal government to state—given our historical context—that while we support the International Criminal Court in this case, it would be unthinkable for us to arrest an Israeli prime minister in Germany? That would seem justifiable, wouldn’t it?
W: I understand your point. This is precisely why we issued a declaration that addresses the two conditions we must consider. One is the importance of the International Criminal Court, which we strongly support. The other is the historical responsibility you mentioned. So, this statement should be viewed in light of these two aspects. I might even go so far as to say that I find it difficult to imagine us carrying out an arrest in Germany under these circumstances.
Herr Wackelt?: Is Mr. Netanyahu welcome in Germany?
H: I’m not aware of any travel plans by the Israeli Prime Minister.
W: I wasn’t asking about travel plans; I was asking whether he is welcome.
H: I have no current requests from the office of the Israeli Prime Minister for him to visit Germany, so I don’t need to comment further on this.
Frau Pauli: Just briefly, did I understand correctly—it’s difficult for you to carry out an arrest on this basis? So, on...
H: [Interrupts] No, that would be...
P: Or on what basis could you carry out an arrest?
H: Let me be very precise. I said it’s hard for me to imagine that, on this basis... That’s something entirely different...
P: Yes, that’s why I’m asking for clarification. So precisely.
H: It’s hard for me to imagine that an arrest would be carried out in Germany on this basis.
P: But on what basis? There’s the International Criminal Court, which has issued an international arrest warrant. Germany recognizes this court, and... yes, then there’s a problem because it concerns Israel and Germany’s historical responsibility or obligation toward Israel. But this press release doesn’t provide any indication of how the federal government would act if Netanyahu were to come to Germany. And now we can all ask this question ten more times, and the answer probably won’t change, but it still isn’t an answer.
H: I think it is, but we can certainly have different opinions on that.
P: Sure. [Laughs while Hebestreit does a Nazi smirk]
Frau Jäckels: You’ve had months to prepare for this scenario. Has no one in the Federal Chancellery or the Foreign Office thought about the consequences? Why does this still need to be examined now?
[Long Pause looking at each other]
H: I.... I don't understand the question
J: It’s been clear for some time that this scenario could arise—that there could be arrest warrants issued for Netanyahu and Gallant. Why is this still being examined now? You could have addressed this long ago.
H: I still don’t understand what you’re getting at.
J: It’s a very straightforward question. You’re now saying the federal government will examine how to implement this decision. But why does this still need to be examined? You could have been preparing for this scenario for months. It’s been clear that this could happen, and even likely that it would.
H: Well, the question is whether it was likely. But there’s no urgency here. So, let’s move on now.
This is only like the first 10 minutes this goes on for 30 minutes I might do the rest because there's more shit there but yeah. Like "Oh there's urgency no rush how to deal with this." in the face of Genocide deeply unserious country led by unserious people.
Edit edit: This is like 5 minutes actually out of 25 minutes but my brain is starting to leak so give me a break they say a bunch of other shit but apparently germany does not recognize the ICC. They are incredibly smug and don't think it necessary to defend the right of the ICC or human rights since Israel now thinks the ICC has no right to exist. Again all of the people up there are like smug nazis and they are all part of the SPD so take from this what you will.
In der Schweiz weist das Bundesamt für Justiz darauf hin, dass die Schweiz das Römer Statut, das die rechtliche Grundlage des Internationalen Strafgerichtshofs bildet, ratifiziert hat. Sie müsste Benjamin Netanjahu und andere Beschuldigte daher grundsätzlich verhaften.
In Switzerland the Federal Department of Justice says that they've ratified the Rome Statue, which forms the legal basis of the ICC. Therefore they would have to arrest Benjamin Natanyahu and other people that have been charged as a matter of principle.
Since @plinky@hexbear.net did post that question I did my part only intending to write something short which got longer so now ima do it as a seperate post.
So I chose a 'left wing newspaper' and a 'right wing newspaper' for fairness here because we gotta see both sides of the worm.
TAZ (These are actually fairly left wing like I'm not doing a bit here)
The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on charges of alleged war crimes and alleged crimes against humanity. Warrants were also issued against Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and the leader of the radical islamist group Hamas, Mohammed Diab Ibrahim Al-Masri, as announced by the ICC in The Hague on thursday. The alleged crimes include murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts. Netanyahu and Gallant are additionally accused of using starvation as a method of warfare.
This is pretty much all they got to say about it at least when I looked so this is like the 'respectable left wing german' position.
Now FAZ aka Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung is 'center-right' you know respectable nazis.
War in Gaza: Arrest warrants against Netanyahu and Gallant.
This is what the warrants against Netanyahu and Gallant mean.
Honestly I tried to properly translate this but I got kinda mad through it. Because it uses quite a bit of weasely language but here goes. I fucking ran on hateorade....
Prosecutor Khan accuses Netanyahu and Gallant of crimes against humanity as part of a "widespread and systematic attack on the Palestinian civilian population." thanks to state policy. It's not about specific attacks by the Israeli army on civilian infrastructure but rather on the restriction and obstruction of humanitarian aid to people in the Gaza strip. Especially immediately after the war began, when Israel completely sealed off the coast and severely restricted acces to water, electricity and food.
Ok kinda lying there since Israel is still starving the people of Gaza but it's like only bad.
Israel's government reportedly used starvation and other acts of violence against the civilian population as part of a broad strategy aimed at eliminating Hamas, freeing Israeli hostages, and collectively punishing the Palestinian population. However, Chief Prosecutor Khan did not clarify to what extent the eventual lifting of the complete blockade and the resumption of humanitarian aid deliveries to Gaza factored into the overall assessment.
Go fuck yourself Alexander Haneke you fucking bavarian piece of shit. He then goes on to write about how awful hamas is for roughly the same amount.
Why is the prosecutor so fixated on the allegation of starvation?
Since the beginning of the war, Israel has faced accusations from many sides of violating international humanitarian law. However, experts urge caution, as the legal assessment of these actions is often highly complex and depends on a variety of factors. For instance, when Hamas uses civilian facilities for military purposes, these buildings become legitimate targets; in such cases, Israel may accept civilian casualties if they are not disproportionate to the military advantage gained. By focusing on accusations of starvation and systematic violence against the civilian population, Chief Prosecutor Khan avoids these nuanced questions. “This approach allows him to target the investigations directly at government officials responsible for these strategic decisions,” explains Christoph Safferling, an international criminal law expert from Nuremberg.
HMMMMMM MY NUANCE, HMMMMMMMM MY HAMAS IS USING CIVILIAN SHIELDS, HMMMMM ISRAEL IS NOT TRYING TO BLOW EVERYBODY UP. LIKE YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY HE 'FIXATED' ON STARVATION? IT'S BECAUSE THERE IS UNDENIABLE TRUTH THAT ISRAEL DID AND IS CURRENTLY DOING IT, THERE'S NO 'HAMAS WAS IN THE REFUGEE CAMP' 'HAMAS IS HOSPITALS' HERE YOU FUCKING DOLT.
Like the whole thing is just this hemming at hawing at how Israel certainly didn't do a genocide they just went a little too far like holy shit how is your next paragraph.
COULD THE ICC HAVE DONE SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR THE INVESTIGATIONS?
In principle, the same procedures apply at the International Criminal Court as in German law. Arrest warrants and pre-trial detention are not convictions—they primarily serve to secure the legal process and prevent the accused from evading the court or committing further crimes. In cases of particularly serious allegations, issuing an arrest warrant is standard practice, even in Germany. However, when it comes to government officials of a state engaged in a war, the question arises whether an arrest is truly necessary and politically feasible.
HMMMMMMMMM I WONDER IF HE DID IT, HMMMMMMMMM I WONDER IF THE GENOCIDER REALLY SHOULD BE JAILED AFTER ALL HIS COUNTRY IS AT WAR HMMMMMMMM I AM THE THINKER, WE CAN'T ARREST HITLER HIS COUNTRY NEEDS HIM IT'S AT WAR
One last for the road...
Hamas celebrated the arrest warrants as a historic step, calling the decision an “important historical precedent and a correction of a long history of injustice against our people.” According to Hamas, the United States had spent months trying to block the action against the two “terrorists,” Netanyahu and Gallant, and had “terrorized” the court and its judges. Hamas did not comment on the warrant against Mohammed Deif. The group urged the court to expand its investigations to include “all criminal leaders of the occupation,” targeting ministers and officers who have “shed the blood of our Palestinian people.”
YES THEY ARE TERRORISTS THEY LITERALLY DID TERROR BOMBINGS, YES THE USA TERRORIZED THE COURT AND JUDGES GET THE FUCKING " " OUT OF THERE LIKE IT'S CRAZY HOW HE IS JUST QUOTE MINING HAMAS WHILE GIVING ENTIRE PARAGRAPHS TO ZIONISTS.
Johann Wadephul, the Deputy Chairman of the CDU parliamentary group responsible for foreign policy, told the FrAZ that the issuance of the arrest warrants was problematic. “There are doubts about the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court in this matter. The German government is called upon to take a clear stance,” said Wadephul. He linked his response to criticism of Foreign Minister Baerbock, accusing her of failing to send “the best German candidate into the race for a seat at the ICC.” “That Germany is not represented in this important body, and thus unable to advocate for Israel’s right to self-defense, is a serious failure by the foreign minister.” For him, it was inconceivable that “a democratically elected Prime Minister of the State of Israel would be arrested on German soil.” The arrest warrants, he said, demonstrated the “complete lack of sensitivity at the top of the International Criminal Court.”
SHUT THE FUCK UP JOHANN SHUT THE FUCK UP ALEXANDER SHUT THE FUCK UP GERMANY
I mean like wrong? At least speaking for switzerland, there's no 'sharp line' like there's literally bilingual cities and cantons like Biel/Bienne when I moved closer to the french part the local dialect had more french words in it it's not a 'sharp line' at all. The Röstigraben is more used as a political term similar to something like the urban rural divide because the french speaking cantons are reliably more left than the swiss-german speaking part. As for Rhätisch more people speak portugese than it but I don't know what point that is for what it's worth my partner loves watching the Rätisch program and has gotten quite good and understanding more and more so that nowadays she can get the gist of it.
Like shit I 'conducted business' in french this week my guess is that if I was on the opposite side of the röstigrabe they would be able to speak german with me, actually they did in Fribourg so....
The maximum number of first-class-official languages is how many people are willing to support them. Again compared to Belgium the political parties aren't separate if I lived in the french part even not being able to speak a single word I'd be able to do shopping since everything is in german, french and italian, any government document they have to give out in an official language. In school I learned french so again. All about like actual effort.
Probably because it's the one thing they can put out there that doesn't put 'the west' in a terrible light? Like what other news are there? Genocide in Gaza which USA, UK and Germany are helping so can't report on that. Climate disasters can't do that one. General impending right-wing shift in politics thanks to the failures of european governments and decreasing standards of living can't do that one either. Germany coalition collapsing.... protest actions all over, jailing pro-palestine protesters etc. etc.
There is no good news out there currently except this is the one where finally they get to point fingers at the perfidious slav.
I dunno get better material or get used to being called a lib yank, like there's more than enough really shitty things switzerland does, did and has done all you gotta do is look it up for like 5 minutes.
Honestly been happening more often in the last year or two, not because things are getting better here everyone else is just getting so much worse that bar has been dropping super fast it's wild.
An austrian nazi (Martin Sellner) was arrested in switzerland basically he was already banned in the country for you know being a nazi, decided to come here anyways to say some nazi stuff and got arrested. I thought that since he could do it in austria and germany he'd get away with it but I guess not.
I'm guessing he thought it play out the same as it did in germany where he was banned from the country, came in anyways and their government retroactively lifted the ban.
Edit:
Actually since theres some new news about this now the guy got got in the dumbest way ever, he wanted to protest being not allowed in and wanted to do a whole photo shoot of him shaking the hands of some nazis across the border but he got the whole thing wrong and he stood on the swiss side the whole time. Double irony he did it near the 'Nazifence' so....
He'll probably do the whole 'I didn't know I'm just a smol bean' and since he's austrian he'll probably get away with a fine but oh man just the dumbest guy imaginable.
I think in his very narrow niche he's not too bad it's really when he tried to do the big politics understander where he showed his ass. I actually think it lining up is plausible because both candidate are so sauceless like neither has any momentum to them that pretty much any event can start to shift things drastically. Like either Trump or Kamala could show up any day say something dumb and just immediately lose because of how shitty they are.
Nathanial Bronze calls it even just now with his prediction thingie
This is roughly a week after the betting market was dead even so there probably is a short lag due to Nate relying on polls, this doesn't come as a shock to anyone but it is really not looking good for Kamala from here on out.
Wikipedia has some good pages and some horrifically bad pages, we all know the one where some american teen made all the scots pages even though he literally didn't speak a word of scots but there's tons of other pages that are questionable at best and wrong at worst. The main contributors after decades are still like 80% men and most of them are in a STEM field which again shows in pages that go outside of that narrow niche. I at one point edited some wiki pages myself and you'll literally have some guy do a fucking edit war because he thinks Somatotypes are real and you have to fight for months because you don't have the clout of a math nerd.
Wikipedia had decades to get their act together, they didn't I doubt they will anytime in the future because of how their whole shitty system works.
Edit: To double down their reviewers are also shitty STEMlords who often have no qualifications but think they do, again look at any philosophy page which is just laughable. Everyone is always walking around on eggshells when it comes to how shitty some sections of wikipedia are which has resulted in festering puss filled wounds that glorify nazis and since it's on wikipedia well then it has some credibility to it.
I would say sort of? If you are Kamala you cannot regain the left at this point they'll just continue to slip out of your hands so I think her bid is 'Hey right wingers vote for us because unlike trump we are less embarrassing we will do all the things you want.'
But then Trump is also just like all over so I don't know if you can be 'to the right of' a person that has no clear position.
Yeah I didn't want to include the SVP because then I'd have to talk about their leadership and their base went basically in two directions as their base realized that they'd be getting fucked too if it passes and do like a whole thing which I think might have bigger consequences in the future if their base is getting away from them but that's all speculative and the whole post would've gotten even longer.
Bro it was just a joke 
2? All signs point towards yes.
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So following the whole german thing they did have a news brief today and it's about 20 minutes of them dodging the question looking extremely incompetent and getting somewhat agitated I might actually do some translations of that segment but for people who can speak german here ya go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRl3X5nN4R4
Translation might happen but I am busy so could also just not happen...
Edit: Ate something doing a few comments from the start so might pick it up again at some point
Herr Jung: Mr. Wagner, before we move on to the appointments, I’d like to address the topic of the International Criminal Court because it has been signaled as a matter of significant interest.
Wagner: Mr. Jung, you may start.
J: I read your press release regarding this arrest warrant, and it states that the federal government will carefully examine the domestic steps to be taken. However, this leaves open whether the federal government considers the decision of the International Criminal Court binding. Could you clarify this?
W: I don’t need to clarify it; I can simply refer to what’s stated in the declaration.
J: Yes, but the declaration doesn’t include what you told us here, for example, in May. Back then, you said Germany would, of course, implement all decisions of the International Criminal Court and abide by law and order. That was clear in May. Today’s statement, however, doesn’t include that, whereas other European states have explicitly said this arrest warrant will be implemented.
W: I can still only refer to what is stated in this declaration, and that stands.
J: Mr. Hebestreit, on the same topic, can one interpret this as the federal government doing everything to prevent a situation where an Israeli minister—such as Prime Minister Netanyahu—could be arrested in Germany? That’s how it reads.
Hebestreit: That is an interpretation you are drawing from the text. I refer to the text itself, and that forms the basis of our actions.
J: Perhaps I could ask again: why is it so difficult for the federal government to state—given our historical context—that while we support the International Criminal Court in this case, it would be unthinkable for us to arrest an Israeli prime minister in Germany? That would seem justifiable, wouldn’t it?
W: I understand your point. This is precisely why we issued a declaration that addresses the two conditions we must consider. One is the importance of the International Criminal Court, which we strongly support. The other is the historical responsibility you mentioned. So, this statement should be viewed in light of these two aspects. I might even go so far as to say that I find it difficult to imagine us carrying out an arrest in Germany under these circumstances.
Herr Wackelt?: Is Mr. Netanyahu welcome in Germany?
H: I’m not aware of any travel plans by the Israeli Prime Minister.
W: I wasn’t asking about travel plans; I was asking whether he is welcome.
H: I have no current requests from the office of the Israeli Prime Minister for him to visit Germany, so I don’t need to comment further on this.
Frau Pauli: Just briefly, did I understand correctly—it’s difficult for you to carry out an arrest on this basis? So, on...
H: [Interrupts] No, that would be...
P: Or on what basis could you carry out an arrest?
H: Let me be very precise. I said it’s hard for me to imagine that, on this basis... That’s something entirely different...
P: Yes, that’s why I’m asking for clarification. So precisely.
H: It’s hard for me to imagine that an arrest would be carried out in Germany on this basis.
P: But on what basis? There’s the International Criminal Court, which has issued an international arrest warrant. Germany recognizes this court, and... yes, then there’s a problem because it concerns Israel and Germany’s historical responsibility or obligation toward Israel. But this press release doesn’t provide any indication of how the federal government would act if Netanyahu were to come to Germany. And now we can all ask this question ten more times, and the answer probably won’t change, but it still isn’t an answer.
H: I think it is, but we can certainly have different opinions on that.
P: Sure. [Laughs while Hebestreit does a Nazi smirk]
Frau Jäckels: You’ve had months to prepare for this scenario. Has no one in the Federal Chancellery or the Foreign Office thought about the consequences? Why does this still need to be examined now?
[Long Pause looking at each other]
H: I.... I don't understand the question
J: It’s been clear for some time that this scenario could arise—that there could be arrest warrants issued for Netanyahu and Gallant. Why is this still being examined now? You could have addressed this long ago.
H: I still don’t understand what you’re getting at.
J: It’s a very straightforward question. You’re now saying the federal government will examine how to implement this decision. But why does this still need to be examined? You could have been preparing for this scenario for months. It’s been clear that this could happen, and even likely that it would.
H: Well, the question is whether it was likely. But there’s no urgency here. So, let’s move on now.
This is only like the first 10 minutes this goes on for 30 minutes I might do the rest because there's more shit there but yeah. Like "Oh there's urgency no rush how to deal with this." in the face of Genocide deeply unserious country led by unserious people.
Edit edit: This is like 5 minutes actually out of 25 minutes but my brain is starting to leak so give me a break they say a bunch of other shit but apparently germany does not recognize the ICC. They are incredibly smug and don't think it necessary to defend the right of the ICC or human rights since Israel now thinks the ICC has no right to exist. Again all of the people up there are like smug nazis and they are all part of the SPD so take from this what you will.