The Enhanced Games is organizing an alternative to the corrupt Olympic Games. The first sports event without drug testing.

https://nitter.1d4.us/enhanced_games/status/1670862210132738073

  • Justaguymakingapost [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I've never understood why anyone would take steroids for performance enhancement. The strength increase just doesn't seem worth it compared to the possible health issues that might develop. And that's even assuming that steroids are giving you that much of an edge in the first place.

    Like, just based on the known history of lifting, I believe, honestly, that most people could match steroid users in overall performance, just not in sheer size when it comes to bodybuilding. I don't have any issue with people doing it and performing against others in an honest competition as suggested here, I'm just not sure why you'd want to.

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      11 months ago

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    • GaveUp [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Anybody striving for greatness sacrifices their well-being

      The most accomplished scientists and mathematicians didn't have a healthy balanced lifestyle with lots of friends and exercise

      Marx was so obsessed with learning and writing that his house was always in disarray and he never bothered trying to make a living to support his family. Instead relying on asking Engels for money

      • Self_Hating_Moid [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Hey my house is always in dissaray and i never exercise and have shit food intake, but im not smart at all!

      • tripartitegraph [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Just a fun fact: one of the most prolific mathematicians in the 20th century (so prolific that mathematicians play a Bacon-number game with his collaborators), Paul Erdős, used amphetamines every day for the last 25 years of his life. His friend once bet him $500 to go cold turkey for a month and at the end of the month Erdős said "you've set mathematics back a month". Dude was a baller

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Like, just based on the known history of lifting, I believe, honestly, that most people could match steroid users in overall performance, just not in sheer size when it comes to bodybuilding.

      No chance. Especially with cardiovascular based sports. EPO and some new sarms like Cardarine are basically real life cheat codes.

      • Justaguymakingapost [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Warning(?): This became way wordier than I intended and I'm very sorry to anyone who makes the long journey through it. The sad thing is, this is only half of what I had intended to type. Human strength potential is one of my favorite conversation topics. Again, I'm very sorry.

        I can see that, maybe. I just don't think we've hit the level at which we NEED to use steroids yet, atleast when it comes to strength. Looking at old school examples, like Hackenschmidt or Maxick, the level of strength they had, despite any short comings or lack of current scientific knowledge, indicates, to me atleast, that we can achieve more physically than what we've seen so far.

        The rep ranges, for example, weren't really made concrete until maybe the 1950s, iirc, some 50 to 60 years after many of these guys had been in relatively fit condition. And even in recent years, we've found that longer rests between sets may potentially increase size and strength gains, meaning that, combined with rep ranges and decent nutrition, people like Hack and Max could've attained their biggest physiques at an earlier stage than they did originally.

        Think about it this way. Maxick popularized maxalding, basically a rediscovery of isometrics, and used it to attain (for his height and weight) near superhuman strength, at least for his over head press. He was below average height for the time and sickly when he was a child, hardly what comes to mind when a person thinks of a strength athlete. He likely wasn't above a 23 ffmi, meaning he could've gotten bigger and, as a result, stronger. His overhead was 322-ish pounds at 147lbs himself, but we'll call it 310 just incase that lift was a one off thing. According to the site StrengthLevel, at his weight his elite level lift would've been 202lbs, meaning he was around 53.47% stronger than he was supposed to be, and he still had more potential mass to gain.

        If we applied that to the average elite lifter on that site, at 248lbs overhead, that would mean, assuming their average overall, a 5'9.5" amab lifter under 200lbs should be able to attain a 380.6 lbs overhead. And that's before considering the fact he had less mass on him than he could have, which would mean potentially as much as a 65%, give or take, increase in strength could be possible. Which would make the average amab lifter able to overhead 409.2lbs. This is all hypothetical, of course, but it would atleast imply that humans have the potential to push themselves further while steroid free than we currently believe.

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I just don't think we've hit the level at which we NEED to use steroids yet

          we don't need to do so at all we also don't need to keep breaking records. All of sports is just for fun at the end of the day

          also sometimes some athletes have genetic factors that better enable them to do their sport than average for example Usain Bolt trains very hard but there are other athletes that train harder but Usain Bolt has a higher than average proportion of fast twitch to slow twitch muscles in his leg.

          • Justaguymakingapost [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            There's been some, I guess, rumors, that olympic lifters can actually out perform olympic sprinters in the first 10 or so meters of a run. But that's mostly hearsay, so grain of salt. But if it were true, Usain could maybe increase his speed to around 30 mph, seeing as how his workouts seem to consist of mostly high rep and explosive movements, again, if it's true. There has been talk of the human potential to hit 40 mph, though, so 30 is atleast do-able, maybe.

            Training for that would be difficult, might require some borderline nonsensical equipment, like an underwater treadmill with a harness attatched to elastic band that would pull the user down to act as gravity, then let the user run against the water for a unique form of resistance training. Or just go the Baki route and fill a pool with maple syrup and run against that.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I've never understood why anyone would take steroids for performance enhancement. The strength increase just doesn't seem worth it compared to the possible health issues that might develop.

      They want to win. Period. That's all the motivation required.