fifth-international Hd version chad-trotsky

posted mostly because i thought it was funny, the ML USA orgs map is propably big too but not as much i think

also im surprised how castroism is a big influence on some trot orgs, its probably the ones that are anti-embargo are also castro influenced Fidel-deke

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  • solaranus
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    1 year ago

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  • AHopeOnceMore [he/him]B
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    1 year ago

    The ML one is tied to this one too, lol.

    Socialist Workers Party -> Workers World Party -> Party for Socialism and Liberation.

    The US has a funny Trot-to-ML pipeline from trot party splits.

      • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        They have a councilmember in Seattle. That makes them the most succesfull marxist organisation in the US at the moment. I'm not a trot so I don't like to admit that, but it's true.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    If contemporary neoliberalism is secular-Calvinist, this looks like leftist secular-Protestantism, further fracturing within fracturing and all. posting

  • hypercube [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    having a hard time choosing between the Tempest Collective or Love and Rage for the coolest name

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
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    1 year ago

    This is a really fun diagram. I really enjoy how it's color-coded and organized. bonus points for the legend being clear but I'd personally either make the color boxes on the legend larger or avoid using similar colors so as to avoid making mix-up mistakes when reading the map.

  • LibsEatPoop [any]
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    1 year ago

    If this kind of info is available to us normies, the feds probably know literally every single person who has ever been in any org at all. Scary.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]M
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      If you actually read the chart, most of the splits re-merged. With the remaining parties being DSA, SA, and CPUSA (the original party). Most of the splits that do remain have become committees within one of the bigger parties.

      With some of the older trot splinters just focusing on things like art and newspapers.

      I also think that SA and DSA are federated and I know CPUSA does a lot of work with both depending on the size of the local. I see all the groups at rallies around me and they all know each other and are friendly.

      Ah, forgot PSL, they're also pretty closely integrated with groups like CPUSA and DSA when it comes to actual action.

  • Snackuleata [any]
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    1 year ago

    Anybody want to help me reform Generic Trotskyist League (40% off)?

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    also im surprised how castroism is a big influence on some trot orgs

    Posadas was a trot and fairly influential in mid-century LatAm. Posadists played some role in the Cuban revolution, so there's a historic trot to Cuba connection even though Cuba was allied to the USSR.