This is what he considers antisemitic for context:

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  • Angel [any]
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    4 months ago

    "Vegan" Zionists are unfortunately not as uncommon as you'd think...

    • Gay_Tomato [they/them, it/its]
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      4 months ago

      I can't imagine the type of mindset it takes to think that Palestinians are less worthy of life then animals.

      • Angel [any]
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        4 months ago

        I notice that, believe it or not, sometimes veganism attracts the "facts and logic" kind of people who can come to somewhat of a principled, philosophical understanding as to why they should support veganism by thinking it out for a bit, but in that thought process, they forget that veganism is also fundamentally rooted in opposing oppression systemically. It's not a coincidence that radical animal liberation orgs tend to be explicitly leftist or even simply that leftism and veganism oftentimes go hand-in-hand.

        • HelltakerHomosexual [she/her, comrade/them]
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          4 months ago

          yeah veganism has a very wide amount of partakers, i've seen nazi vegans, and of course you lovely commie vegans, zionist vegans, anarcho capitalist vegans,

    • Barx [none/use name]
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      4 months ago

      Liberal Zionists are, very often, the insufferable trendy kind that think they're smarter than everyone else because they have a subscription to the New York Crimes.

    • SwitchyWitchyandBitchy [she/her]
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      4 months ago

      The first big-ish vegan YouTuber I stumbled across turned out to be misogynistic and transphobic. Like, way more than the average Westerner. It was kinda jarring after most of the vegans I'd met IRL, all but one of whom were lovely.

          • Saeculum [he/him, comrade/them]
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            4 months ago

            I feel like if you're going to eat meat, you should be up for at least trying dog meat. Otherwise how can you justify your dietary habits? What makes dogs special?

            It's not like massive unaddressed contradictions is anything new for liberals though.

            I started dubbing this mentality "dognitive dissonance."

            That's quite good

    • a_little_red_rat [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 months ago

      I was semi-active in some animal liberation circles and the amount of Zionists and "centrists" ("noo don't cut XYZ off, they are a good activist, can't we put politics aside???") is disgusting. But while it has its heart in the right place opposing animal commodification, vegan activism has always been thoroughly lib, so not exactly surprising.

      • Angel [any]
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        4 months ago

        You joke, but George Martin of an Instagram page titled "carnism_debunked" has effectively unironically made this argument:

        [CW: Islamophobic "Vegan" Zionist Garbage]

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        if one is sabotaging Israeli activists and their activism due to Israeli attitudes and government actions, shouldn't the same be said of Palestine and the backward attitude of many Palestinians towards animals and human rights issues?

        Jesus fucking Christ...