This is what he considers antisemitic for context:

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  • VHS [he/him]
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    14 天前

    She's right to be against the genocide, but claiming "this conflict is THOUSANDS of years old" doesn't make any sense. Zionism got its start in the late 19th century

    • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]
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      14 天前

      She's just a lib who is trying her best. You can tell because she thinks signing petitions is a meaningful action.

      Settler colonialism isn't a topic they would normally oppose unless they see 100s of examples of children bleeding out.

      Much easier for them to understand it as a holy war where one side went overboard than understanding Zionism as the modern incarnation of manifest destiny or lebensraum.

    • Red_sun_in_the_sky@lemmy.ml
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      14 天前

      Well as the other reply says, I guess some people only think shit like fascism died off with ww2 and don't think much of settler colonialism. To them its bewildering that other fascist groups exist other than nazis and they pursue lebensraum.

  • Noven [any]
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    14 天前

    Someone in the bodybuilding community posting about politics dean-neutral

    It's not about Jordan Peterson dean-smile

  • Angel [any]
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    14 天前

    "Vegan" Zionists are unfortunately not as uncommon as you'd think...

    • Gay_Tomato [they/them, it/its]
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      14 天前

      I can't imagine the type of mindset it takes to think that Palestinians are less worthy of life then animals.

      • Angel [any]
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        14 天前

        I notice that, believe it or not, sometimes veganism attracts the "facts and logic" kind of people who can come to somewhat of a principled, philosophical understanding as to why they should support veganism by thinking it out for a bit, but in that thought process, they forget that veganism is also fundamentally rooted in opposing oppression systemically. It's not a coincidence that radical animal liberation orgs tend to be explicitly leftist or even simply that leftism and veganism oftentimes go hand-in-hand.

        • HelltakerHomosexual [she/her, comrade/them]
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          14 天前

          yeah veganism has a very wide amount of partakers, i've seen nazi vegans, and of course you lovely commie vegans, zionist vegans, anarcho capitalist vegans,

    • Barx [none/use name]
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      14 天前

      Liberal Zionists are, very often, the insufferable trendy kind that think they're smarter than everyone else because they have a subscription to the New York Crimes.

    • SwitchyWitchyandBitchy [she/her]
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      14 天前

      The first big-ish vegan YouTuber I stumbled across turned out to be misogynistic and transphobic. Like, way more than the average Westerner. It was kinda jarring after most of the vegans I'd met IRL, all but one of whom were lovely.

        • Angel [any]
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          14 天前
          [CW: Discussion of Dog Meat + Sinophobia]

          That shit pisses me off! Recently, a vegan buddy of mine sent me this reel on Instagram of Chinese people preparing to use dogs for food. A lot of the commenters seemed extremely upset, some posting sad and sympathetic comments and some that were just outright frustrated and angry.

          I came across this one humongous piece of shit that went as far to say that Chinese people are "basically a barbaric different species" because of their dog meat consumption.

          It had me like - first of fucking all:

          1. I know this fucker is an omni. For him to go as far to call another group of people a "different species" for doing the same exact shit he does was a level of unawareness that could not keep me chill.
          2. My partner is Chinese and a vegan. For this reason, sinophobia strikes me pretty damn personally. Considering this, it's ironic how my partner is definitely being less barbaric than this loser is by his own logic even though she is Chinese!

          Also, the Reddit shit where people express sentiments of wanting to kill dog eaters when Redditors also get very pissed when vegans are "pushy" to them: the edgiest and lowest form of cringe.

          I started dubbing this mentality "dognitive dissonance."

          • Saeculum [he/him, comrade/them]
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            14 天前

            I feel like if you're going to eat meat, you should be up for at least trying dog meat. Otherwise how can you justify your dietary habits? What makes dogs special?

            It's not like massive unaddressed contradictions is anything new for liberals though.

            I started dubbing this mentality "dognitive dissonance."

            That's quite good

    • a_little_red_rat [he/him, comrade/them]
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      14 天前

      I was semi-active in some animal liberation circles and the amount of Zionists and "centrists" ("noo don't cut XYZ off, they are a good activist, can't we put politics aside???") is disgusting. But while it has its heart in the right place opposing animal commodification, vegan activism has always been thoroughly lib, so not exactly surprising.

    • Xx_Aru_xX [she/her]
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      14 天前

      How can you support Muslims when they celebrate eid al Adha angry-hex

      • Angel [any]
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        14 天前

        You joke, but George Martin of an Instagram page titled "carnism_debunked" has effectively unironically made this argument:

        [CW: Islamophobic "Vegan" Zionist Garbage]

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        if one is sabotaging Israeli activists and their activism due to Israeli attitudes and government actions, shouldn't the same be said of Palestine and the backward attitude of many Palestinians towards animals and human rights issues?

        Jesus fucking Christ...

        • Xx_Aru_xX [she/her]
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          14 天前

          We shouldn't support Palestine as vegans because Pakistan oppresses women

        • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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          14 天前

          We cannot allow Americans to hold signs advocating for an end to poverty while children are being shot in the head for going to school

        • pooh [she/her, any]
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          14 天前

          I can’t believe the Game of Thrones dude would say such things

  • davel [he/him]
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    14 天前

    I think I only knew she existed because of reddit-logo, and I forgot she existed because I logout-lemmy a year ago. If you’re not on the fediverse you’re dead to me.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    14 天前

    Oh wow writing to representatives. That's gonna do a lot.

  • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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    14 天前

    Damn, Leanbeefpatty on the right side of history. She's so cool and I'm gonna leave it at that before someone runs in with a bonkstick.

  • LaBellaLotta [any]
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    14 天前

    Why am I not surprised vegan gains is an Israel apologists

    • Anarcho-Bolshevik@lemmygrad.ml
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      13 天前

      Only in a very loose sense: that is to say, this is but one attempt of many by various empires to control Palestine. However, the present iteration goes back no earlier than 1882, so when people say that the conflict is ‘ancient’, they’re implying that Jews and Palestinians have been fighting each other for millennia, which is utterly laughworthy.

    • Leon_Frotsky [she/her, undecided]
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      14 天前

      the only reason i know about him is he did a debate about veganism with funny-clown-hammer and asked him if he was consistent and if in his stance that since there was no ethical consumption under capitalism he thought it was perfectly moral to consume child porn too and funny-clown-hammer said he thought that it definitely wasnt immoral which got clipped like a bazillion times

        • very_poggers_gay [they/them]
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          14 天前

          yeah me too... I can't remember what it was, but i was getting the yuck from him way before i was into politics and knew more about stuff. That the is so fuzzy, it feels like it was 10 years ago

    • CommCat [none/use name]
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      14 天前

      Haven't heard of him in a decade? I remember he admitted to being a sociopath