Yes it's some-controversy propaganda and it is a heck a lot better than a multi billion arms sale presser that amerikkka puts out in it's media.

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  • Des [she/her, they/them]
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    4 months ago

    i think they are going to pull it off.

    because they actually want it. and don't care if it isn't profitable in the short term

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      • Des [she/her, they/them]
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        4 months ago

        true. it will never be a money maker.

        the "profit" will be from delivering the world from fossil fuels and rare resources, empowering small nations to have complete energy freedom, and eventually setting humanity up on the path to true FALGSC

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          • Des [she/her, they/them]
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            4 months ago

            mass produced chinese made compact commercial fusion reactors. belt & road initiative 2.0. even comes with a free tritium breeding blanket

    • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br
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      4 months ago

      I don't think that's even a question if isn't going to be profitable at the short, or long time, but that its success isn't make other interests unprofitable, like in capitalist societies, so there's no one with the power of the accumulated capital influencing tge government to cut it off. Imagine the green technologies we could have now, if wasn't for the gas and oil industry sabotaging it for decades.

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    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      information, ideas, opinions, or images, often only giving one part of an argument, that are broadcast, published, or in some other way spread with the intention of influencing people's opinions:

      This is one common definition of propaganda from the Cambridge dictionary. The negative connotation is not necessarily part of the word.

      Strictly speaking, even ad campaigns like "brush your teeth" are a form of propaganda.

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        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          Probably out of line with the commonly understood meaning of the word, yeah.

          But that just means it's very effective to pull as a gotcha on a smuglord lib.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      'propaganda' doesn't have to be false, it means something that has a viewpoint to promote. (digression: the words "publicity" and "propaganda" map to the same phrase in Chinese. the capitalist west uses "propaganda" to mean publicity that doesn't favor its narrative.) once you realize that liberals' beloved "objectivity" is a myth and everyone is biased by their material conditions, the supposed negative connotation is minimized

      As we say on the show over and over again the atomic unit of propaganda is not lies, it's emphasis.

      Citations Needed Ep 113: Hollywood and Anti-Muslim Racism (Part I) — Action and Adventure Schlock

    • Hestia [comrade/them, she/her]
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      Just because something's true doesn't mean it's not propaganda.

      We spread communist propaganda all the time here. It's praxis.

    • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      I had a db0 troll last China tech post whining about it being straight up Chinese propaganda and "a bit much". So it is to pre-empt that.

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    • ZWQbpkzl [none/use name]
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      4 months ago

      The entire article linked is exactly a one sentence long. The video has one more sentence. Absolutely nothing specific about what the breakthrough is. Not even a link to more info. This is just lazy.

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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      4 months ago

      Someone said president Xi can we have the sun and he said we have the sun at home

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    4 months ago

    If anything would spark immediate nuclear war it would be this.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 months ago

        Unlimited fusion energy threatens those whose power is built on other methods of providing energy.

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        • waluigiblunts [he/him]
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          4 months ago

          Why would it lead to immediate nuclear war? Are there any pieces from American/Russian think tanks advocating for the death of billions if nuclear fusion is achieved in a commercial setting that I'm not aware of?

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            4 months ago

            Almost all global power is built around oil, gas and coal. No petrodollar means no US power worldwide.

            Are there any pieces from American/Russian think tanks advocating for the death of billions if nuclear fusion is achieved in a commercial setting that I'm not aware of?

            As soon as they believe the technology is real they will be. But it'll be more subtle than that, they're not going to outright say it's because of fusion energy they're going to say it's because the chinese are sneaky evil orientals and communism must be stopped.

            • waluigiblunts [he/him]
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              While I think that war is possible as a last ditch attempt to stop a geopolitical dominance shift, it's a huge leap to say that "immediate nuclear war" is incoming.

              • Awoo [she/her]
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                4 months ago

                Why? You acknowledge war is the last ditch they'd undertake and that means nuclear war if it's between the US and China, which it would be.

                • waluigiblunts [he/him]
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                  There is literally nothing to be gained from nuclear holocaust. I think it is extremely unlikely that the US will launch nuclear first strikes in response to something so relatively trivial as losing global relevance. The USSR completely collapsed, and they didn't set off any nukes either.

                  A conventional war (this is not necessarily a total war) does not automatically mean nuclear first strikes either. America does not respond to losing wars with nuclear first strikes. This is proven by historical example. They have been taking Ls left and right without setting off any nukes. The only time they have used nuclear weapons in an act of war was in Japan, and that was when they were winning.

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      4 months ago

      nah, workable fusion needs a very replicable, cheap distribution scheme before it's a real threat, and they can manipulate the narrative, & trade of such technology. look at how long they delayed wind & solar without murdering everyone involved in it

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    Looking forward to the mental gymnastics cope Westoids will resort to to maintain the "Chinese can't innovate, only copy" narrative.

    Edit: I got it. The cope will be "Chinese create cheap artificial knock off of the sun".

    • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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      4 months ago

      The infamous Chinese invention "block printing" is a knock off of writing things with ink and quill, in this essay I will conclude the CCP will collapse in 30 days because of this.

  • Monk3brain3 [any, he/him]
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    4 months ago

    I hope China gets fusion. But I really hope they let the west collapse before selling it to the rest of the world. If the absolutely corrupt West gets a permanent lease on life I expect an Elysium (the movie, and terrible example but I can't think of a better one right now) type situation for the world.

    • Owl [he/him]M
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      4 months ago

      The west is unlikely to use fusion power. The reason we don't use fission is that the plants are so expensive and take so long to build that the person who decided on making them has left the company by the time they turn a profit. Fusion plants will most likely be more expensive and take longer to build.

      • EatPotatoes [none/use name]
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        4 months ago

        My own illogical bet is really deep geothermal drilled using direct energy drilling developed from fusion research that also mines metals from the brine.

    • TheBroodian [none/use name]
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      4 months ago

      They could probably precipitate the collapse of the West by exporting fusion technology to Africa and South America

  • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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    4 months ago

    Crazy how people came up with all these different reactor designs and it turns out the tokamak was the most promising all along.

    • Sinister [none/use name, comrade/them]B
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      4 months ago

      The soviets and eastern bloc planned to build solar panels in space and harvest its energys in the 80s.

      I did a while ago look up the gdr economic developmental plans for some industrial cities and it was heavily focused on microelectronics.

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  • ZWQbpkzl [none/use name]
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    4 months ago

    I'm a little suspicious that they clearly show a bunch of westerners touring the place and looking credulous but they never quote them. If you're not going to have them say "yeah I'm a nuclear physicist and this shit's real" then it just looks like cheap b-reel. I'm not saying their actors, but they for sure ain't physicists.

    Entire article quoted:

    China's new-generation "artificial sun" project Huanliu-3 (HL-3) has achieved remarkable progress in controlling nuclear fusion by discovering and realizing a new advanced magnetic field structure for the first time in the world, according to the China National Nuclear Corporation, one of the country's largest nuclear power operators.

    What is this? Propaganda for ants? Do better.

    • crosswind [they/them]
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      4 months ago

      China has achieved remarkable progress in controlling nuclear fusion by fusioning their nuclears better than ever before!

  • TheBroodian [none/use name]
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    4 months ago

    When your state's propaganda is centered around making achievements in technology good for humanity, rather than showing how good you do murder

  • iie [they/them, he/him]
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    assign the engineers bodyguards and keep them off commercial flights lol

    (once it's actually close to being viable)