I see your ass, 'ally'.

[CW: all the isms] See also: liberals doing homophobia, , racism, body shaming, ableism etc if the target is a conservative. "Teehee Putin kissing Trump photoshops are funny!", "Rednecks are dumb!", "Mitch McConnell is ugly!" "Dumb black/trans/woman siding with conservatives deserves leopards eating their face!"

Remember, conservatives are bad because they're dangerous to human well being, not because they're gay, a woman or ugly.

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I can't stand that type of thing. I will say that it's shockingly common though. My guess is that homophobic gays are disgusted at themselves and that fuels the hatred.

      • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        it's also a "if i'm outwardly homophobic nobody will suspect me" logic on the part of the self-hater... which, you'd think would be backfiring by now

        supposedly brazen homophobes are more likely to be gay than the population as a whole but even the 20 year old research i half remember didn't indicate even a majority of phobes were closest cases.

        I do think it's fair game to accuse pastors who rail on really specific shit, like the guy who ranted about how jerking off into the mirror is sinful definitely jerked off looking at himself in the mirror, but i wouldn't go further than "gay sex is really tempting but you have to resist" guys maybe being bi because no kinsey 1 would have that experience.

    • Kuori [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      yea i have a friend who does this constantly with desantis. i adore her but it drives me up a fucking wall and down the other side every single time

        • Autisticky [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          I've heard it fittingly described that conservatives that call gay people "unnatural" or "gross" or "dgnrate" are simply homophobes, and it is instead the conservatives that emphasize that "it is a choice" and that people should "choose to be straight" that have a good shot at being closeted in some way.

          • Changeling [it/its]
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            1 year ago

            Some of that talking point originally came from proponents of conversion therapy who were simply wielding pseudoscience as a way to own the libs, but there are indeed now people who were raised with this notion and either repressed their queerness or who just straight up had conversion therapy forced on them. Steven Crowder is the first to come to mind for me.

      • Changeling [it/its]
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        1 year ago

        DeSantis, really? I have bigots I’d put money on being closeted, but DeSantis isn’t even close to being on that list.

        Another accusation that always just strikes me as a shot in the dark attempt to shame him is Matt Walsh. Dude deserves the pit, but he’s cishet as fuck, no doubt.

        • Kuori [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          i know lmao, it's so obviously just the reflexive lib thing of "bad man gay!" that it makes me wonder how she even picked it up (she's one of the most supportive people i know wrt transitioning) vivian-shrug

          it's so nonsensical that it really would be funny if it weren't such a grotesque, harmful talking point

          and yeah walsh gives me like, evil alt-world cody johnston vibes rather than big gay vibes of any kind

          • Changeling [it/its]
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            1 year ago

            walsh gives me like, evil alt-world cody johnston vibes

            Fuck, this is so good data-laughing