I see your ass, 'ally'.
[CW: all the isms] See also: liberals doing homophobia, , racism, body shaming, ableism etc if the target is a conservative. "Teehee Putin kissing Trump photoshops are funny!", "Rednecks are dumb!", "Mitch McConnell is ugly!" "Dumb black/trans/woman siding with conservatives deserves leopards eating their face!"
Remember, conservatives are bad because they're dangerous to human well being, not because they're gay, a woman or ugly.
The 146th type of liberalism: Saying you support the #MeToo movement and victims of sexual abuse and harassment coming forward, but then drop that support as soon as it's politically inconvenient.
Lib take:
One person is accused of rape, which the other person denies - which means either one person is a rapist or the other is making up a claim bout rape in the middle of a presidential campaign and by extension derailing democracy in America and imperiling the lives of millions.
That means either Joe Biden is a rapist on the loose or Tara Reade is essentially a terrorist. Compassion for victims does not apply here - Tara Reade needs to provide detailed accounts of everything she's done for the last 25 years and find some way of verifying this - or she needs to acknowledge she's a liar and face the consequences. Joe Biden needs to provide double blind presentation of timelines and like you say, lets see where the chips fall. And if Tara Reade is lying, she needs to go to jail for decades.
Compassion for rape victims is one thing. Taking allegations seriously is one thing. We have a democracy under threat from a fascist president. Tara Reade is an adult and she needs to be treated like one AND she needs to act like one. Prove your claim Tara. The burden is on her.
Saying you support the #MeToo movement and victims of sexual abuse and harassment coming forward, but then drop that support as soon as it's politically inconvenient.
Yeah I remember this really well, even outside of politics. There was this woman celeb who was all about supporting the victims of sexual misconduct, until it came out that her friend was abusing men. Then suddenly she was all quiet about metoo.
Would also be nice if libs stopped claiming every single homophobic politician is a closet case
I can't stand that type of thing. I will say that it's shockingly common though. My guess is that homophobic gays are disgusted at themselves and that fuels the hatred.
it's also a "if i'm outwardly homophobic nobody will suspect me" logic on the part of the self-hater... which, you'd think would be backfiring by now
supposedly brazen homophobes are more likely to be gay than the population as a whole but even the 20 year old research i half remember didn't indicate even a majority of phobes were closest cases.
I do think it's fair game to accuse pastors who rail on really specific shit, like the guy who ranted about how jerking off into the mirror is sinful definitely jerked off looking at himself in the mirror, but i wouldn't go further than "gay sex is really tempting but you have to resist" guys maybe being bi because no kinsey 1 would have that experience.
i have a friend who does this constantly with desantis. i adore her but it drives me up a fucking wall and down the other side every single timeI get where it comes from, but like maybe it's a bad idea to imply that all anti-gay politics is masterminded by secret evil gays
I've heard it fittingly described that conservatives that call gay people "unnatural" or "gross" or "dgnrate" are simply homophobes, and it is instead the conservatives that emphasize that "it is a choice" and that people should "choose to be straight" that have a good shot at being closeted in some way.
Some of that talking point originally came from proponents of conversion therapy who were simply wielding pseudoscience as a way to own the libs, but there are indeed now people who were raised with this notion and either repressed their queerness or who just straight up had conversion therapy forced on them. Steven Crowder is the first to come to mind for me.
DeSantis, really? I have bigots I’d put money on being closeted, but DeSantis isn’t even close to being on that list.
Another accusation that always just strikes me as a shot in the dark attempt to shame him is Matt Walsh. Dude deserves the pit, but he’s cishet as fuck, no doubt.
i know lmao, it's so obviously just the reflexive lib thing of "bad man gay!" that it makes me wonder how she even picked it up (she's one of the most supportive people i know wrt transitioning)
it's so nonsensical that it really would be funny if it weren't such a grotesque, harmful talking point
and yeah walsh gives me like, evil alt-world cody johnston vibes rather than big gay vibes of any kind
walsh gives me like, evil alt-world cody johnston vibes
Fuck, this is so good
I have seen "leopards ate face" stuff with people saying "got what they deserved" but you're right in that the way it's supposed to be used is a lot better
Liberals doing a liberalism liberally in Liberaltown USA during brunch at Liberal Brunch Cafe
HHHGN I'M GONNA LECTURE SOMEONE ON WHY CHANGE RIGHT NOW IS UNREALISTIC.
"Dumb black/trans/woman siding with conservatives deserves leopards eating their face!"
I mean I agree up until this point, but at the same time I don't. Even though I have compassion for these people and the discrimination they face as I face similar, it is always some incredible irony and humour to see them face the consequences of being a traitor or selling out. Seeing LGB drop the T folks eat dirt after supporting bigoted shit for example, they really thought they could be better than us? Of course the homophobes will treat you like shit, you fools!
It is politics of The Other. To the conservatives, the ingroup is Americans and the outgroup is non-Americans. To the liberals, their ingroup is the conservatives' outgroups and their outgroup are the conservatives. This is why you will see things like libs cheerfully go into dangerous locales to prove everything is OK. These are their ingroups! And then they get beaten, stabbed or run over and can't understand what happened. To the people that live there, all Americans are definitely The Other to them, and thus are fair game.
I think everyone knows how The Other gets treated: you can do anything to them. They're not people, so they are outside the law. That's where the word "outlaw" came from, once you were declared an outlaw it was no longer a crime to do things like rob you or kill you. With all the things Trump can be criticized for (correctly), you see people calling him a piece of shit because he's fat. Or Clarence Thomas or Candace Owens being called a house Ns. I mean, that's the best you've got? You can't pick up any of the problems they are clearly guilty of? No, it has to be one of these.
libs cheerfully go into dangerous locales to prove everything is OK. These are their ingroups! And then they get beaten, stabbed or run over and can't understand what happened.
Can you provide some kind of example of this?
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/31/634373403/d-c-couple-killed-in-tajikistan-attack-were-biking-around-the-world-together
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/19/theater/19peac.html
"Accepting rides with strangers was crucial to the art performance’s success"
