I'm arguing with people that think there were massacres in 2011 and that Gaddafi "threatened" to carry out more on a wider scale.
This is on an Internet forum from the 2000s.
Help me out here. Give me sources, if you can. I'm trying to convince these people, but it's been a long time since I've looked into the topic, and I'm going by memory here.
The only investigation was done by a UK commission, so obviously they are being very diplomatic towards their own government that was part of the war crime coalition in Libya. Basically, they conclude that the US-armed rebels were the ones causing most of the massacres and the NATO coalition used their own crimes as a pretext to invade.
This policy was not informed by accurate intelligence. In particular, the Government failed to identify that the threat to civilians was overstated and that the rebels included a significant Islamist element. By the summer of 2011, the limited intervention to protect civilians had drifted into an opportunist policy of regime change. That policy was not underpinned by a strategy to support and shape post-Gaddafi Libya. The result was political and economic collapse, inter-militia and inter-tribal warfare, humanitarian and migrant crises, widespread human rights violations, the spread of Gaddafi regime weapons across the region and the growth of ISIL in North Africa. Through his decision making in the National Security Council, former Prime Minister David Cameron was ultimately responsible for the failure to develop a coherent Libya strategy.
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201617/cmselect/cmfaff/119/119.pdf
https://www.salon.com/2016/09/16/u-k-parliament-report-details-how-natos-2011-war-in-libya-was-based-on-lies/
Thank you so much!~
Just used the article down below.
So far?
Silence from the other two.
I've also brought up the consequences of the invasion, such as open slavery in the streets of Tripoli (capital of Libya).
There was no genocide. If you want a decent source on Libya I've seen Everyday Politics in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya by Matteo Capasso recommended. But I've yet to read it, it's still on my backlog.
Frankly, they're now using articles that are from early 2011.
I've told them that they've since been debunked, but no dice, they won't listen.
Thank you!
Does anyone have a video I can show to this person?
Or an article?
“Where babies ripped out of incubators by Saddam?”
Fucking rube
Edit: oh the obvious wrecker responded after I blocked. Go elsewhere, spam elsewhere, spread spam shit elsewhere. You are a plague on this site.
She (the person I'm arguing with) didn't say that, but she did say there were massacres.
For the record, I was radicalized in 2010 or 2011.
The invasion of Libya is what radicalized me.
So this means quite a bit to me.
(Trying to debunk her.)
I’m going to cross post this comment to like 500 comms if I remember when I wake up later
No, I don't. You're saying Pluto doxxed a user and that's a known and established fact?
This is actually true though. Pluto did dox information about a user and that's why Pluto is no longer a mod. It was resolved by removing you as a mod @Pluto@hexbear.net
I did not and the incident and charge was resolved.
This happened at least months ago.
Thanks for sticking up for me.
I know that my cross-posting can be a pain.
I've decided to stop that.
Goddamn, we got somebody wearing red with a yellow bolt ova heah.
I’m going to promote your comment by linking to a Linux comm
At least since two days ago. Someone confronted me about it and I decided to stop.
I'm quite sorry you feel that way. I will try my best and fight for everyone.
