Looks like ups is gonna eat shit, support your local teamsters during the strike!

https://twitter.com/Teamsters/status/1676509553205051396

  • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    There's some doomers in this thread, so let me lay out some facts:

    Everyone relies on UPS. Has anyone else gotten a notice from their pharmacy that their meds might be late?

    How would Amazon fair without UPS doing the main part of their shipping?

    What happens when port workers start calling out because they can't get their meds?

    What happens when auto mechanics can't get parts for jobs?

    This will create massive tension between UPS and the rest of the capitalist class. The real negotiations won't happen at the bargaining table, but in back rooms between UPS execs and pharma execs, tech execs.

    We don't win by hurting their profits, we win by pitching capital against itself.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Not mentioning half, give or take, of USPS's shit is sent through UPS, the military has a bunch of contracts with UPS to move their sensitive shit, a whole bunch of ground cargo companies also get their shit from UPS, there's also been a growing international trade network UPS has been growing. American teamsters striking means all of that grinds to a halt

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      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I don't want to say too much, but when I say that capital is divided and labor can use that to win, I'm speaking from experience, not theory. Theory says they give in when you hurt their bottom line. That's not my experience. My experience is that they give in when you pitch the short term thinkers against the long term thinkers, the liberals against the hard noses, and the financiers against the productive capitalists.

        Gramsci said that after one failed anarchist revolution and before a second. The capitalist class had learned solidarity through struggle, just like we do. Today's capitalists are in new waters: finance has taken over and tech hasn't been tested by worker uprisings yet. Still others are resting on the victories of the Reagan years.

        I don't belive in generating pessimism in people once we've committed to struggle. So instead of saying "it won't work," I have to ask "what should we do differently based on your analysis?"

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        • Vladimir_Slipknotchenko [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          I hope you don’t mind me butting in with a tangential question: you mentioned industry and finance capital, distinction I think is important to make when discussing capital, but also mentioned tech being untested in a way that made me think you’re treating it as a third type of capitalist.

          That isn’t an idea I’ve encountered before and would be interested in hearing about that. I’ve assumed up until this point that tech represented a wing of finance capital.

          • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I agree that tech is a wing of finance capital, just one that hasn't had to face significant worker struggle the way that other sectors of finance have

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Imo ALU hasn't done the work to go on any kind of strike let alone an illegal strike.

        That said, Amazon muscling in is exactly the kind of intra-capitalist tension that helps us win.