Okay! Well just remember every time you go saying that phrase, you're pretty much saying fascist shit. Especially considering how OUN and Bandera were Nazi collaborators and liked to say that phrase. While at it, go read every atrocity Bandera and his ilk committed to! Just to point something else out to.
It was at the Warsaw trial that the OUN first started using the slogan “Slava Ukraini” publicly in combination with the Roman (Nazi) salute. Vira Svientsitska was the first to shout the slogan with salute in court as she was being dragged from the courtroom for refusing to testify in Polish. Bandera and Mykola Lebed would shout the slogan at their sentencing.
from https://mronline.org/2022/11/07/the-history-of-fascism-in-ukraine-part-i-the-origins-of-the-oun-1917-1941/
Maybe do some reading, like from that link! Or go double down on willful ignorance.
Sigh
As always on hexbear you nitpick what you like and ommit all sourrounding context.
There is 180 years of context sourrounding this phrase.
Let me give you the tldr:
Yes fascists used the phrase for a couple of years around the 40s and one should not forgett that (this is where we agree).
However Ukrainians have refused to give the phrase to the nazis and after a cooldown period started to use it mostly as a "Battlecry" for resitance.
But most important is the contemoprary context.
Currently (and you know this) "Slava Ukraini" is used as a sign of resistance against the russian aggressors and as a sign of support towards Ukrain.
Maybe you should stop supporting actual facists by calling everyone who is not licking putins boots a facist.
There is 180 years of context sourrounding this phrase.
Funny how losers like you will hem'n'haw and "um-acktually" about bullshit technicalities to weasel your way out of having to explain why you openly support fascist Ukraine then piss your pants and scream when anyone on hexbear explains the context that occured in the color counter-revolution that happened a decade ago.
If Ukraine is trying to distance itself from Nazis why does Zelensky clap for Yaroslav Hunka and glaze the First Galician SS members, who were not only nazis but guilty of some of the most horrifying abuses in Ukraine? Why does every second picture of a Ukrainian soldier shows them wearing a black sun, the OUN patch, a totenkopf, a wolfsangel, or other fascist iconography? Why did Azov nazis get brought further and further into the fight, instead of being shunned and arrested for beint a literal neo nazi militia who were commiting war crimes against Russian speaking Ukrainians?
This thread ia about the phrase "Slava Ukraini" and if it's ok to use or if it ahould not be used because facists around the 50s tried to make it their own.
Although I am going to aay this.
Russia a "world power" invaded ukrain in an illegal attack.
I don't think Ukrain can afford to shunn any Soldier they have.
I do truely hope Ukrain will analyze the war propperly (and prossecute warcrimes appropriatly)
After Russia got their ass handed to them
You're trying to say that your fascist slogan isn't fascist because Ukraine got rid of the fascists. How is me bringing up all the instances of fascism being mainstream in Ukraine off topic?
You're also saying that they can just freely put guns in the hands of genocidal Nazis because they're fighting to keep land that the Ukrainian government was shelling before the war started? You understand that Nazis are guilty of killing far more civilians in Ukraine than Russia has, right? You're throwing out the baby with the bathwater to a ridiculous degree. If Ukraine has to resort to recruiting Nazis then they should just surrender, otherwise even if they could somehow win, they're just going to put all the ethnic Russians in death camps.
Also, just so you know, even the Ukrainian government is perfectly aware they're not going to win this lol. Here, have a look, maybe you can buy yourself a bit of land or some government offices: privatization.gov.ua
I don't care where you live, you're a bootlicker of the american empire siding with literal nazis to prolong a war effort that's just getting sad at this point
How many 50 year old conscripts do you think it will take to defeat Putin? When are you gonna volunteer if you care so much?
When was the cooldown period? How long? When did people stop flying the flag of the OUN-B or idolizing Bandera? Never? Pretending it's one slogan is a diversion, clearly, it is an example of the wider trend of extremist Ukrainian nationalism
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go fuck yourself. citing that fascist slogan
No don't think I will
Okay! Well just remember every time you go saying that phrase, you're pretty much saying fascist shit. Especially considering how OUN and Bandera were Nazi collaborators and liked to say that phrase. While at it, go read every atrocity Bandera and his ilk committed to! Just to point something else out to.
from https://mronline.org/2022/11/07/the-history-of-fascism-in-ukraine-part-i-the-origins-of-the-oun-1917-1941/
Maybe do some reading, like from that link! Or go double down on willful ignorance.
Sigh As always on hexbear you nitpick what you like and ommit all sourrounding context.
There is 180 years of context sourrounding this phrase.
Let me give you the tldr: Yes fascists used the phrase for a couple of years around the 40s and one should not forgett that (this is where we agree). However Ukrainians have refused to give the phrase to the nazis and after a cooldown period started to use it mostly as a "Battlecry" for resitance.
But most important is the contemoprary context. Currently (and you know this) "Slava Ukraini" is used as a sign of resistance against the russian aggressors and as a sign of support towards Ukrain.
Maybe you should stop supporting actual facists by calling everyone who is not licking putins boots a facist.
Funny how losers like you will hem'n'haw and "um-acktually" about bullshit technicalities to weasel your way out of having to explain why you openly support fascist Ukraine then piss your pants and scream when anyone on hexbear explains the context that occured in the color counter-revolution that happened a decade ago.
Really got me screaming there big boy
Moma must be proud
I always wondered how and why the germans went along with Hitler and nazi Germany, then I see people like you and it makes sense.
Haha
Sure you do
Go back to reddit
why are you such a smug bastard
If Ukraine is trying to distance itself from Nazis why does Zelensky clap for Yaroslav Hunka and glaze the First Galician SS members, who were not only nazis but guilty of some of the most horrifying abuses in Ukraine? Why does every second picture of a Ukrainian soldier shows them wearing a black sun, the OUN patch, a totenkopf, a wolfsangel, or other fascist iconography? Why did Azov nazis get brought further and further into the fight, instead of being shunned and arrested for beint a literal neo nazi militia who were commiting war crimes against Russian speaking Ukrainians?
You went way off topic here
This thread ia about the phrase "Slava Ukraini" and if it's ok to use or if it ahould not be used because facists around the 50s tried to make it their own.
Although I am going to aay this. Russia a "world power" invaded ukrain in an illegal attack. I don't think Ukrain can afford to shunn any Soldier they have.
I do truely hope Ukrain will analyze the war propperly (and prossecute warcrimes appropriatly) After Russia got their ass handed to them
You're trying to say that your fascist slogan isn't fascist because Ukraine got rid of the fascists. How is me bringing up all the instances of fascism being mainstream in Ukraine off topic?
You're also saying that they can just freely put guns in the hands of genocidal Nazis because they're fighting to keep land that the Ukrainian government was shelling before the war started? You understand that Nazis are guilty of killing far more civilians in Ukraine than Russia has, right? You're throwing out the baby with the bathwater to a ridiculous degree. If Ukraine has to resort to recruiting Nazis then they should just surrender, otherwise even if they could somehow win, they're just going to put all the ethnic Russians in death camps.
Also, just so you know, even the Ukrainian government is perfectly aware they're not going to win this lol. Here, have a look, maybe you can buy yourself a bit of land or some government offices: privatization.gov.ua
Slava my butthole
Slava it good and deep, get up in there with the tongue
Deeply unserious poster who is so ignorant of geopolitics and history that they oppose “facism”
Nope not ignorant about geopolitics
Just not a bootlicker
You say with the boot of
in your mouth
Haha
Not even close but maybe next time you get the right continent
Stanning for the US empire while not being American is more pathetic not less
I don't care where you live, you're a bootlicker of the american empire siding with literal nazis to prolong a war effort that's just getting sad at this point
How many 50 year old conscripts do you think it will take to defeat Putin? When are you gonna volunteer if you care so much?
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You're indistinguishable from a Nazi my guy, I don't think we have to leave it at anything
tankies are fucking awesome whats wrong with you
When was the cooldown period? How long? When did people stop flying the flag of the OUN-B or idolizing Bandera? Never? Pretending it's one slogan is a diversion, clearly, it is an example of the wider trend of extremist Ukrainian nationalism
Sure if you say so
Ifyou were right that meme might actually make sense ;)
peasant must resort to emoticons to fight our glorious emotes
Glad we agree that you're using fascist rhetoric that has not been sanitized of its nazi past
You're just an open nazi, cheering on your banderite proxies and telling us that it's just some deep historical call-back when it's just nazi shit.
I swear you fucking Germans wouldn't know culture if it bit you in the ass.
Dude. Ukraine was shelling and still is shelling civilians in the independent republics. Do some reading. The media is 100% lies.
Google overextending Russia rand
Slava my dick and my balls
Slava them real good
Slava Baloney...
Haha
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Enthusiastic supporter of a war for which he still didn't volunteer to fight in, calls us "pussies". Ha.
In other unsurprising news, tankies continue to say stupid fuckin shit
You're still not volunteered i see.
That's a Ukrainian? If so, I wonder how much he's paying to stay out of the recruiting offices or which country he tucked tail and ran to.
No, probably western nafobot and also a fresh account with nearly every post being "Russia bad" and "tankies bad".
So just a plain larping redditor that thinks posting is praxis.
Smartest Nato bot
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Don't ever attempt a conman career, you're so very transparent. Also, you’re still not in trenches.
Follow your leader
Why are you still here and not defending democracy from die Russich hordes?
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Indeed