https://nitter.net/TarikCyrilAmar/status/1678332708227895297

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    1 year ago

    Turning the Russian army to the purpose of evacuating and providing relief to Donbas refugees to facilitate a smooth exit would have been an infinitely better use of Russian money and manpower than launching a suicide mission across the border.

    Hundreds of thousands of lives would have been spared. The economy of border towns would have surged. Half of North Africa wouldn't be facing a famine due to destruction of arable land. Russian and Belarusian borders would have been well-fortified, rather than juggling the egos of a bunch of rebellious mercenaries. And we wouldn't be debating how many mines and cluster bombs to scatter across the Eastern European interior, to plague generations to come.

    • edge [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      evacuating and providing relief to Donbas refugees to facilitate a smooth exit

      You mean forcibly deporting. Because that's what it would be.

    • Parzivus [any]
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      1 year ago

      suicide mission

      Evidently not, they're winning by all metrics except perhaps "not winning fast enough"

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        1 year ago

        Nothing about this bloodbath constitutes "winning". Hundreds of thousands of people are dead. The repeated failed harvests are threatening regional famine. We're looking at economic damage well into the tens of billions, assuming the war were to end tomorrow, and trillions going into the future. Military budgets across the continent are surging, as European leadership is whipped into an anti-Russo panic.

        All this so two legions of mercenaries can play artillery tag across the Donbas basin? How is that winning?

        • Parzivus [any]
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          1 year ago

          People usually die in wars, not sure what you were expecting.
          NATO literally does not have the ability to sustain this war. They could get there, if they were not neoliberal hellholes, but they are. Their military industries are build around making overpriced, wildly complex equipment that is sometimes good enough to kill insurgents and not nearly good enough for symmetrical warfare. No amount of money can fix this.
          Russia, while also being something of a neolib trash fire, still has enough Soviet infrastructure to produce in months what takes years in other nations, and they will eventually win the conflict. Whether that will be just the Donbass or a full annexation or somewhere in between remains to be seen.

          • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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            1 year ago

            NATO literally does not have the ability to sustain this war.

            The Western MIC can keep churning out hardware forever. There is no upper limit to the number of bombs we can manufacture, just the rate.

            Russia, while also being something of a neolib trash fire, still has enough Soviet infrastructure to produce in months what takes years in other nations

            It doesn't matter, when one bomb can level a city block. We're approaching a point at which there simply will not be anything left worth bombing.