Lol it's not even out yet and people are already doing "acshually Napoleon was bad" discourse.

  • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    "acshually Napoleon was bad"

    His Imperial and Royal Majesty Napoleon I, By the Grace of God and the Constitution of the Republic, Emperor of the French, King of Italy, Protector of the Confederation of the Rhine, Mediator of the Swiss Confederation and Co-Prince of Andorra?

    yes he was bad

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Deffo. My point is that I don't think Napoleon has a positive image, outside of people who talk about how every man must read the art of war.

      • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        fair
        i guess i'm predisposed to consider him a scumbag as i am english lmao
        it's a reflex

        • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          Definitely a scumbag, but maybe critical support for embarassing a bunch of inbred failson noblemen on the continent.

        • huf [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          the english hating napoleon is rich, napoleon only tried to do what britain actually managed to do

          normal people dont hate napoleon, they dont really think about him at all. but that's because we dont grow up with 200 year old anti-napoleon propaganda fed to us from the cradle.

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      1 year ago

      Protector of the Confederation of the Rhine, Mediator of the Swiss Confederation and Co-Prince of Andorra

      these aren't bad though i agree they never shouldve tried to make italy a thing

          • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I really don't see what about the English people specifically is supposed to be so antithetical to socialism Marx lived in London ffs. Napoleon was a representative of the interests of the bourgeoise interests in France and created one of the first truly capitalist imperial states he was a French national hero nothing less nothing more. He literally installed his relatives as kings of conquered countries how is that socialist or progressive

            Europe should be separated the idea of a united Europe is deeply tied to fascism. Literally why is Europe something people think should be a single entity.

              • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                A united Europe is an idea that has deep historic ties to fascist movements as well as the fact that the only thing uniting them really being race. It is a move away from national borders and into ethnic borders and would be bad

                if Europe had been one big nation it would have been easier for them to form and maintain imperial holdings and would have been bad for pretty much everyone on earth

                  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    Italians are white in Europe let's not bring weird American racial ideas into this. Americans don't even think the Spanish are white

                    whiteness is a made up concept of course but generally it has always included everyone in Europe with the exception of the Roma and other marginal groups and can more or less be defined as "of European ethnic origin"

                    There also isn't a shared culinary tradition. Italian food and Scandinavian food are very different more so than Italian and North African food