For all the newcomers that aren’t aware, I just stumbled upon this insane drama. Apparently lemmy.ml [http://lemmy.ml] is the result of a reddit sub ban of a bunch of pro-china bots who vigorously defend the Chinese government, and the two top admins are also the top devs of the Lemmy source software. Pretty terrible stuff! The linked thread is full of their insane ramblings and denialism Edit: I seem to have been blocked from commenting, all my replies are timing out now. But I wanted to say that I don’t intend to make this post as an “anti-lemmy” thing, I think the truth should burn brightly in the sunlight. We should try to continue to grow Lemmy (especially since we’re the largest reddit clone) while calling out their propaganda and hidden motive. Edit2: turns out I can comment, I just can’t reply to kbin user comments from my instance. Just spins indefinitely.

lol ... lmao even

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Well, that was a depressing read

    The people there literally think that America is better then China because they can "debate and vote out Nazis"

    Jesus, where do you start with such brainwashing? They really think that America is a democracy, no matter how many times the rich fucks who run their country just do whatever without oversight.

    Funny how it's always "America isn't perfect, but..."

    But it's never "China isn't perfect, but..."

    • a_talking_is2 [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Right. You'd think it's just a basic logic to realize that "MUH COONTRY NAMBA WUN" and "My country bad, all the other are even worse" is the same-picture.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        1 year ago

        There's an old joke about an American and a Soviet sharing a beer. The American says, "You don't know what its like to have freedom. If I was in California, I could say whatever horrible thing I wanted to about Governor Ronald Reagan, and nobody would stop me."

        The Soviet nods and smiles. "Perhaps this is true, in California. But do not fear. I assure you, if I was in St. Petersburg, I could also say whatever horrible thing I wanted to about Governor Ronald Reagan."

    • SnAgCu [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      We’ve been in a post-truth era now for a number of years. There’s nothing that can be done. China has over a billion people. If they want propaganda bots to saturate the internet, they got it. Just keep promoting internet safety, critical media thinking skills, and real historical facts.

      The lack of self-awareness and ironically, critical thinking skills on display in those comments is so tragic.

      "If the Chinese media says something, don't believe it! The American media told me that."

    • iridaniotter [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      America is better than China because even though you can't vote in Nazis in China and you can in America, you can also vote them out! soypoint-1