For all the newcomers that aren’t aware, I just stumbled upon this insane drama.
Apparently lemmy.ml [http://lemmy.ml] is the result of a reddit sub ban of a
bunch of pro-china bots who vigorously defend the Chinese government, and the
two top admins are also the top devs of the Lemmy source software. Pretty
terrible stuff! The linked thread is full of their insane ramblings and
denialism Edit: I seem to have been blocked from commenting, all my replies are
timing out now. But I wanted to say that I don’t intend to make this post as an
“anti-lemmy” thing, I think the truth should burn brightly in the sunlight. We
should try to continue to grow Lemmy (especially since we’re the largest reddit
clone) while calling out their propaganda and hidden motive. Edit2: turns out I
can comment, I just can’t reply to kbin user comments from my instance. Just
spins indefinitely.
I also love how those comments are all talking about voting styles as though that will be the thing that fixes western democracy. I got caught up in that particular bit of wonkery for a long time too, feels nostalgic.
Even within that wonkery, shit like STAR is designed to have the least hated candidate (i.e. the bland shitty centrist) win. Whereas Instant Runoff is simple, easy to understand, and produces a winner that people actually want, the most liked candidate instead of the least hated. But that would be bad for centrists so it's bad.
Huh. I never really put that much thought into STAR and just sort of blandly agreed when people said that it was better than Instant Runoff because idk... it sounded aesthetically cooler? lol. brain very simple. I continued to support Instant Runoff instead mostly because it seemed more achievable due to momentum., I never really thought of the material difference between them like that. Thanks for this post.
The more I've learned about it, the more I've been convinced that China's Whole Process People's Democracy is the current world benchmark for democratic control of a state. Voting in candidates should just be one action in a constant process of polling the people for what they want or need and implementing those things, and if that system is comprehensive enough then the specific voting system you use for representatives is almost an irrelevant detail.
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