It is, for Republicans. Democrats ignore it. Just like they ignored Tara Reade. Just like Republicans ignored "Grab them by the pussy" and "Stormy Daniels." It's just a bunch of bourgeois partisan hackery and lazy mudslinging between ruling class hypocrites. They all come together and reach across the aisle when it's time to bomb the global south or throw more people in ICE camps.
Like how come Clinton’s blowjob was international news but the presidents son being a crack addict with connections to sex trafficking and high level corruption is not?
I mean JFK was constantly cheating on his wife with Marilyn Monroe. And I'm pretty sure Herbert Hoover was having sex with a woman 1/3 his age in the white house closet or something. This kinda thing is normal among the American ruling class. They use it to mudsling at each other, but nobody really cares when their team does it.
a fun moment in Hell of Presidents is when they're talking about Cleveland's campaign when it came out that he had an illegitimate son. Blaine supporters would chant "Ma! Ma! Where's my Pa?" and after Cleveland won Clevand supporters responded to it with shouts of "Gone to the White House, ha ha ha!"
GROVER GANG, GROVER GANG, GROVER GANG, GROVER GANG
GROVER GANG, GROVER GANG, GROVER GANG (GROVER GANG!)
SPENT THREE BIL THIRD CAMPAIGN
MY BITCH LOVE TO CAMPAIGN, OOH
SKIPPED A TERM THEN REGAINED
just had to use this bit one more time before the election really gets underway and the irony becomes super attenuated
#metoo movement, 2017-2020. That brief, shining moment.
"Compassion for rape victims is one thing. Taking allegations seriously is one thing. We have a democracy under threat from a fascist president. Tara Reade is an adult and she needs to be treated like one AND she needs to act like one. Prove your claim Tara. The burden is on her.
One person is accused of rape, which the other person denies - which means either one person is a rapist or the other is making up a claim bout rape in the middle of a presidential campaign and by extension derailing democracy in America and imperiling the lives of millions."
Libs think that Trump was a stain on the honor of an otherwise respectable institution, but at the same time they now feel that the bar for what is acceptable behavior from the presidential family has been lowered. Respectability basically just means you don't tweet about it when you're sniffing lines of blow off some young woman's breasts out of embezzled bills. As long as they can say, "so what, you voted for the grab 'em by the pussy guy," they'll be able to claim moral superiority and that's really what this is all about.
I disagree, if Trump's kids start doing anything like this it'll be all hands on deck in the media. And if Trump wins 2024 and such happens, indictments for the whole family! (to no effect)
Well yeah, Trump's the bad guy. Biden's son is an unfortunate example of how even the mightiest among us can fall on hard times, but Trump's kids? They bear the mark of sin.
I just kinda don't give a shit about anything republicans try to push. The facts don't matter, I plain hate their asses and that will always be the driver of my politics. It'll be a cold day in hell before I give them anything
If a Republican speaks I just don’t listen, no matter the topic. If a democrat speaks, I listen and find a way to be critical of every single word they said.
The only path to relative peace. If you listen to their words you have to worry about all the ways they say they will fuck you over. If you don't listen you only have to deal with the ways they do fuck you over.
The GOP astroturfed the Clinton scandal to marginalize him politically. People only cared because the GOP and allied media blew it up and used it as a circus. No one really cares about Hunter - The core beliefs of the modern GOP are so insane and untethered from reality that "Guy does drugs, gets blowjob from sex worker" is too mundane, and the Democrats have a party line of never, ever, ever acknowledging anything bad about Biden that rises to a sort of Mentat like auto-brain-washing.
Basically the Democrats refuse to admit it happened and if it did happened it isn't important, and the GOP are, literally, screaming about Democrats harvesting the pineal glands of children and Trans people making their kids queer using Satanic powers. Shit is just too bizarre and unhinged for anyone here to really care.
For the record I support drug legalisation, but I don’t support the kind of economic apartheid of one rule for the rich and another for everyone else.
No, see, Hunter Biden is based because he's rich & can do whatever he wants, and makes chuds mad when doing so. If you're broke & never get to have any fun, you just need to learn that that's your lot in life & deal with it, or kill yourself.
Yeah because there's nothing to find funny here. Rich American "son of the president" nepotism guy, that was involved in corruption scandals in Ukraine leading up to the largest peer military conflict of the 21st century, being involved in sex crimes is not a joke.
Because nobody cares about Hunter Biden himself. Nobody is invested in him like they are in a president, he's not really a "public figure". He only exists as this character somewhere in the void that people mention every now and then, he's not the same kind of public figure that the Trump kids are, for example.
It's not a story like "This nice, well-spoken young man who I see on the telly all the time did cocaine off of a stripper's bare tits? I can't believe it!"
It's more "Biden's son who's known for doing coke and fucking prostitutes did coke and fucked prostitutes again, go figure."
Hunter Biden seems more relatable I think. I'm pretty sure for a lot of people they'd want to be the guy doing drugs and having sex rather than being one of the Trump kids.
Because things are so partisan in America that even this amongst voters is something the opposing "team" will just waive off.
Because scandals like this in America amongst the rich and powerful are pretty normal.
People feel disenfranchised and feel like there is such a separation between this and their normal lives that it isn't worth getting worked up about outside of jokes.
the culture, and specifically the media, has changed a lot. we've had like a high profile sex scandal every month since then. "the rich and powerful are all drug addicted sex creeps!" -- the story was old news before it even broke.
also the 90s was sort of the peak of evangelical Christianity's cultural power. you'll recall that John F. Kennedy was a well known womanizer and it hardly raised an eyebrow. Attitudes reversed sharply during the Carter administration and by the Reagan years, obscenity on television was an issue that the "moral majority" were actually voting on. Now that militant bloc of Concerned Parents has fizzled out into an unruly mob of divorcees and childless tradcaths who worship a golfer real estate agent who makes fun of them in his speeches and doesn't go to church, and who began his campaign with a voice recording where he claimed to enjoy sexual assault.
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It is, for Republicans. Democrats ignore it. Just like they ignored Tara Reade. Just like Republicans ignored "Grab them by the pussy" and "Stormy Daniels." It's just a bunch of bourgeois partisan hackery and lazy mudslinging between ruling class hypocrites. They all come together and reach across the aisle when it's time to bomb the global south or throw more people in ICE camps.
I mean JFK was constantly cheating on his wife with Marilyn Monroe. And I'm pretty sure Herbert Hoover was having sex with a woman 1/3 his age in the white house closet or something. This kinda thing is normal among the American ruling class. They use it to mudsling at each other, but nobody really cares when their team does it.
a fun moment in Hell of Presidents is when they're talking about Cleveland's campaign when it came out that he had an illegitimate son. Blaine supporters would chant "Ma! Ma! Where's my Pa?" and after Cleveland won Clevand supporters responded to it with shouts of "Gone to the White House, ha ha ha!"
he was also the first and only guy to pull off the thing that trump is currently trying to do, which is serve two nonconsecutive terms
GROVER GANG, GROVER GANG, GROVER GANG, GROVER GANG
GROVER GANG, GROVER GANG, GROVER GANG (GROVER GANG!)
SPENT THREE BIL THIRD CAMPAIGN
MY BITCH LOVE TO CAMPAIGN, OOH
SKIPPED A TERM THEN REGAINED
just had to use this bit one more time before the election really gets underway and the irony becomes super attenuated
jesus christ
#metoo movement, 2017-2020. That brief, shining moment.
"Compassion for rape victims is one thing. Taking allegations seriously is one thing. We have a democracy under threat from a fascist president. Tara Reade is an adult and she needs to be treated like one AND she needs to act like one. Prove your claim Tara. The burden is on her.
One person is accused of rape, which the other person denies - which means either one person is a rapist or the other is making up a claim bout rape in the middle of a presidential campaign and by extension derailing democracy in America and imperiling the lives of millions."
-- Reddit 2020
Libs think that Trump was a stain on the honor of an otherwise respectable institution, but at the same time they now feel that the bar for what is acceptable behavior from the presidential family has been lowered. Respectability basically just means you don't tweet about it when you're sniffing lines of blow off some young woman's breasts out of embezzled bills. As long as they can say, "so what, you voted for the grab 'em by the pussy guy," they'll be able to claim moral superiority and that's really what this is all about.
I disagree, if Trump's kids start doing anything like this it'll be all hands on deck in the media. And if Trump wins 2024 and such happens, indictments for the whole family! (to no effect)
Well yeah, Trump's the bad guy. Biden's son is an unfortunate example of how even the mightiest among us can fall on hard times, but Trump's kids? They bear the mark of sin.
I unironically have more respect for a crackhead like Hunter than an elephant-murdering scumbag like Don Jr.
I just kinda don't give a shit about anything republicans try to push. The facts don't matter, I plain hate their asses and that will always be the driver of my politics. It'll be a cold day in hell before I give them anything
If a Republican speaks I just don’t listen, no matter the topic. If a democrat speaks, I listen and find a way to be critical of every single word they said.
I listen to neither of them.
The only path to relative peace. If you listen to their words you have to worry about all the ways they say they will fuck you over. If you don't listen you only have to deal with the ways they do fuck you over.
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correct postition
The GOP astroturfed the Clinton scandal to marginalize him politically. People only cared because the GOP and allied media blew it up and used it as a circus. No one really cares about Hunter - The core beliefs of the modern GOP are so insane and untethered from reality that "Guy does drugs, gets blowjob from sex worker" is too mundane, and the Democrats have a party line of never, ever, ever acknowledging anything bad about Biden that rises to a sort of Mentat like auto-brain-washing.
Basically the Democrats refuse to admit it happened and if it did happened it isn't important, and the GOP are, literally, screaming about Democrats harvesting the pineal glands of children and Trans people making their kids queer using Satanic powers. Shit is just too bizarre and unhinged for anyone here to really care.
No, see, Hunter Biden is based because he's rich & can do whatever he wants, and makes chuds mad when doing so. If you're broke & never get to have any fun, you just need to learn that that's your lot in life & deal with it, or kill yourself.
Do Democrats think that? I thought that was just our/The Dirtbag Left's running gag about Hunter being a cool guy.
IDK. I just don't find the joke funny.
Yeah because there's nothing to find funny here. Rich American "son of the president" nepotism guy, that was involved in corruption scandals in Ukraine leading up to the largest peer military conflict of the 21st century, being involved in sex crimes is not a joke.
The whole reason that the liberals don't take this seriously is because the right make it about the wrong things.
Prostitution is not a sex crime. Doing drugs only hurts yourself. Neither of these things is "bad" in and of itself.
Paying for those things with money from corruption and graft is the crime here.
I mean I kind of am for one rule for the rich and another for everyone else...
Because nobody cares about Hunter Biden himself. Nobody is invested in him like they are in a president, he's not really a "public figure". He only exists as this character somewhere in the void that people mention every now and then, he's not the same kind of public figure that the Trump kids are, for example.
It's not a story like "This nice, well-spoken young man who I see on the telly all the time did cocaine off of a stripper's bare tits? I can't believe it!"
It's more "Biden's son who's known for doing coke and fucking prostitutes did coke and fucked prostitutes again, go figure."
Hunter Biden seems more relatable I think. I'm pretty sure for a lot of people they'd want to be the guy doing drugs and having sex rather than being one of the Trump kids.
That's easy, because the chuds are making this a big deal. Nobody else is.
If you say what the far right says, you ARE the far right.
Because things are so partisan in America that even this amongst voters is something the opposing "team" will just waive off.
Because scandals like this in America amongst the rich and powerful are pretty normal.
People feel disenfranchised and feel like there is such a separation between this and their normal lives that it isn't worth getting worked up about outside of jokes.
Because Hunter Biden isn't the President.
the culture, and specifically the media, has changed a lot. we've had like a high profile sex scandal every month since then. "the rich and powerful are all drug addicted sex creeps!" -- the story was old news before it even broke.
also the 90s was sort of the peak of evangelical Christianity's cultural power. you'll recall that John F. Kennedy was a well known womanizer and it hardly raised an eyebrow. Attitudes reversed sharply during the Carter administration and by the Reagan years, obscenity on television was an issue that the "moral majority" were actually voting on. Now that militant bloc of Concerned Parents has fizzled out into an unruly mob of divorcees and childless tradcaths who worship a golfer real estate agent who makes fun of them in his speeches and doesn't go to church, and who began his campaign with a voice recording where he claimed to enjoy sexual assault.
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