there was some discussion about how the saint louis arch was a symbol of white supremacy and like sure, tear the fucker down, but like it dont even make the top ten list for places in the us that should be taken down. heres my list, feel free to disagree.

  1. stone mountain. its like confederate mt rushmore.

  2. mt rushmore. i dont even need to explain this one.

  3. the national mall. the whitehouse, congress building, washington monument, lincoln monument, jefferson monument, arguably the arlington cemetery and mt vernon, basically just all of dc and the parts of virginia that used to be a part of it. the whole city is a monument to white supremacy and i would love to see the majority black residents vote on what should be torn down

  4. the ivy league universities. harvard, yale, princeton, etc. the ivy league schools in particular created a class of ultra wealthy white upper class that can only be gotten rid of by abolishing the schools that created them.

  5. guantanamo bay, technically in cuba, de facto under american control. now that i think about it critically this is probably worse than mt rushmore but like im not changing the orders, I already committed.

  6. the alamo. the people who died here fought for slavery, like nations are bad and all but the land stolen from mexico in 1848 has caused a lot of material harm to the latine community and the american south west should be returned to mexico.

  7. hoover dam. im not saying hydro power is entirely bad, but like the whole region its sustaining shouldnt exist, las vegas shouldnt exist, even if you got rid of the livestock that makes up the majority of the farming along the colorado, growing vegan food here wouldnt be worth it. this region of the united states sustained by hoover dam is overcapacity, mexico doesnt get nearly enough water, not trying to make a malthusian argument here but maybe dont build suburbs in the desert?

  8. niagra falls. total shithole, stripmalls everywhere, the place should be a national park, the canadian side is actually worse. not even opposed to the hydropower here, just think everything else about it is just awful, no wonder why so many people commit suicide here.

  9. la river. YOU TURNED A RIVER INTO CONCRETE! im sure theres a lot of shit in la that deserves destruction for its societal or historical harm, but like this shit is worse than anything i can think of in la. the car culture there is too abstract to put on the list, the beverly hills are fine with me because hasan lives there, maybe skid row, but yall literally paved a river.

  10. disneyworld. i had to mention florida. im glad the state is going to be submerged underwater due to climate change. there's just so many bad places here that deserve to sink. the villages, the maralago, jacksonville, the cuban expat community that left during castro. the whole state is like a nursing home having a rave on vicodin. but disneyworld, it elicits a poisonous amount of nostalgia, look at the star wars, and look at the amusement ride based off the song of the south, go see anamatronic trump that was clearly made to be hillary clinton and had to be redesigned last minute, eat the food that would be illegal to sell in any civilized country, adults that go here for fun need re-education, like something is broke in them.

well thats my list.

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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    1 year ago

    the ivy league universities. harvard, yale, princeton, etc. the ivy league schools in particular created a class of ultra wealthy white upper class that can only be gotten rid of by abolishing the schools that created them.

    This is by definition the tail wagging the dog stemming from a naive understanding of the social reproduction of the bourgeois class, not to mention this is philistinism - blatant anti-intellectualism.

    • DADDYCHILL [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      im not saying abolish college, im saying THESE colleges. everything of value should be stripped from these buildings and sent to other schools, the students and professors who are worth anything should be transferred elsewhere, and the people who are here purely on a class basis should be banned from higher education along with their kids and grand kids.

      would you say the school of oxford deserves to exist, or what about the elite primary schools that every single prime minister in england has attended without fail?

      there is immense inequality in college education, people who have a college education should not have an advantage to those who dont, no school should be more prestigious than another, the ivy league must be torn down brick by brick and replaced.

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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        1 year ago

        philistine take. Saint Petersburg State University and Moscow State University were the most prestigious and oldest schools of the Russian Imperial elite for three centuries prior to the proclamation of the USSR. Did the Bolsheviks demolish these institutions because they were "schools in particular created a class of ultra wealthy white upper class"? The answer is a roaring resolute no! The organization that ran those universities were liquidated, replaced, and transformed into proletarian institutions dedicated to educate the people.

        • DADDYCHILL [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          would they let you in their school, take their classes, could you even afford it? stop defending an institution that hates you.

          you cannot reform a place like harvard to be a place of learning for the working class, it would not be harvard anymore if you did.

          abolition of elite schools shouldnt be this controversial of an issue. name one school that you think should be abolished, one. theres school certainly worse than the ivy leagues that need ending, like oxford or rhodes, but like the whole education system is fucked, theres no equality to it, its a rat race that furthers class division.

          do you know how many kids kill themselves every year over exams, or how much drug habits are formed by educational stress, or the debt which even outside of the united states debt is a problem with colleges.

          people attain degrees not to learn but to make money, college is a racket and no true education can be had until we abolish some of the worst schools that currently exist.

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            you cannot reform a place like harvard to be a place of learning for the working class, it would not be harvard anymore if you did.

            Do you believe the source of the source of the conservatism is in the stones? A curse on the name, perhaps? The geography having an unfavorable leyline placement?

            No? Then I don't see why tearing the building down or not using it as a college would be called for.

            • DADDYCHILL [none/use name]
              hexagon
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              1 year ago

              we are talking about harvard, not hogworts. the school represents an idea bad enough we should tear down the buildings, we can and should build new schools, ones that are equitable and not elitist and dont only serve the top 1% of applicants. again, i cannot stress enough, you arent allowed in harvard, its of no material benefit to you, its not pumping out revolutionary leftist thinkers, theres no trickle down education, its a country club for nerds.

              • hypercube [she/her]
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                1 year ago

                compromise: keep the buildings but use them for paintball, or raves, or a year-round furry convention

              • silent_water [she/her]
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                1 year ago

                this is idealism, comrade. institutions can be replaced without tearing down buildings. if it happens during a revolution because of class anger, cool. but planning to do it because you loathe the idea of what they represent in the present is just plain idealism.