When it comes to the unhoused, liberals really do go full mask off. It's awful.

  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    I figure it's a combination of several things:

    • The unhoused are a safe target socially speaking. Only actual leftists (I would hazard a guess at <10% of the US population, a large share of whom are young enough to be disregarded) would call someone out for suggesting we need a final solution for homelessness.
    • Libs generally believe in institutions over people. They blame the unhoused for being unhoused (typically due to "all being drug addicts") rather than the government and, more broadly, capitalism.
    • Most libs aren't politically engaged and just want the unhoused gone, but don't care how. If the only solution presented to this is fascism, the libs will become (at least tacitly) supporters of fascism.
    • Libs are insulated from the suffering inflicted by capitalism, and seeing an unhoused person makes them feel unsafe as they realize that the bubble of security in which they live is actually an illusion.
    • America lives in a culture of terror of the other, which has been exacerbated by the bourgeois media and most policitians. Unhoused people committing crimes or being otherwise violent are also disproportionately amplified by bourgeois media, which increases this effect.
      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        most americans have most of their wealth tied up in a home that they own

        That may be true for older grillman but a whole lot of millennials and younger rent or have some other non-ownership living arrangement, which makes it especially fucked when they still punch down on the unhoused.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            11 months ago

            I had a former roommate who was fucked over for hours and remained at the bottom of a big box retail totem pole for years until he was unceremoniously laid off and he always blamed his "lazy" coworkers for that.

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        11 months ago

        most americans have most of their wealth tied up in a home that they own

        I always hear this, and I know the stats say it’s like 60%, but to be quite honest I don’t fucking believe that. Who are these 60% of people that own their homes? I don’t know them. Some of my friends parents (not even all) own a home, and one of my friends. If I estimated based on people I know I would say around 1/5th of Americans own their home.

        • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          I mean it just depends on the area you're in and your background right? If you live somewhere with a higher COL the rate is lower (42-55% in DC, CA and NY) locally. Also it's calculated as (homes occupied by owner)/(all occupied homes).

          So like if you have 2 houses in a neighborhood, both owned by Bourgeois Bobby and he lives in one and rents the neighboring one to a group of 4 roommates, that's a 50% home ownership rate.

          If you added a third house owned by Family Fred and Family Francine, a married couple, who also live with the following adults who don't own the home: Francine's ailing mother, adult son Chuck, adult daughter Samantha and Chuck's boyfriend Tom who they let move in because he was going to be homeless otherwise.

          66% home ownership rate in this neighborhood now. Mind you Fred and Francine can own 3% equity in the house and owe the bank 97% of the houses value: they still count as a home owning household.

          EDIT: to clarify, most of my point here is that most people would say 1/11 of the people in this neighborhood, 3/11 of we're being generous, own a home. The rate is calculated in a way that maybe is misleading.

          • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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            11 months ago

            So like if you have 2 houses in a neighborhood, both owned by Bourgeois Bobby and he lives in one and rents the neighboring one to a group of 4 roommates, that's a 50% home ownership rate

            Ah yes okay, so a 60% home ownership rate is a lie. The right way to calculate this situation would be a 20% home ownership rate, not 50%, as 1 in 5 people owns the home they live in.

            Being deliberately miscalculated to tell a lie does explain why that number feels like bullshit.