If you criticize people even for doing neutral or good things (like voting to cut military funding), it detracts from actually valid criticism. Even if you don't like a person, you shouldn't dunk on them for no reason. Boy who cried wolf and all that.
If nothing else, it's just boring. If you're gonna dunk just for the sake of dunking, at least keep it in the dunk tank.
He made a conscious political choice to fold his social democratic movement into the Biden campaign and it's totally killed any sort of legislation he was pushing for. The only valid argument for not burning down the party was "hey, we might be able to get stuff done if we play nice", that was criticized at the time and it turned out to be a fucking disaster at a time where the left should be posturing itself away from the failures of this liberal administration. Fuck that old man and anyone dumb enough to still defend him.
Yes, I 100% agree with that comment, as it is criticizing him for an actually bad thing he did.
For some reason, this site assumes I'm a succdem whenever I call out stupid criticisms of succdems. You'd think my use of the word "succdem" would suggest something about what I think about them, but that's that.
I just don't like baseless criticisms of people, especially when there's valid criticisms to be made.
It's not like Bernie is gonna do shit with this. To be useful it needs to be part of a party line on how both liberal parties act against the interests of the working class, so you should do X (like join and build another party, etc etc).
For Bernie, the X is "get fucked and vote blue no matter who".
Y'all just wanna dunk on succdems regardless of what they do lol.
This site is like 90% shitting on anyone and everything for not being good enough.
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Hexbear is way better after blocking the dunk tank but unfortunately it still leaks through sometimes.
Yes?
Nobody likes Social Democrats. This is a leftist website.
If you criticize people even for doing neutral or good things (like voting to cut military funding), it detracts from actually valid criticism. Even if you don't like a person, you shouldn't dunk on them for no reason. Boy who cried wolf and all that.
If nothing else, it's just boring. If you're gonna dunk just for the sake of dunking, at least keep it in the dunk tank.
He made a conscious political choice to fold his social democratic movement into the Biden campaign and it's totally killed any sort of legislation he was pushing for. The only valid argument for not burning down the party was "hey, we might be able to get stuff done if we play nice", that was criticized at the time and it turned out to be a fucking disaster at a time where the left should be posturing itself away from the failures of this liberal administration. Fuck that old man and anyone dumb enough to still defend him.
Yes, I 100% agree with that comment, as it is criticizing him for an actually bad thing he did.
For some reason, this site assumes I'm a succdem whenever I call out stupid criticisms of succdems. You'd think my use of the word "succdem" would suggest something about what I think about them, but that's that.
I just don't like baseless criticisms of people, especially when there's valid criticisms to be made.
not true. if they
i would kneel
I'll stop when they do stuff
Guilty as charged
It's not like Bernie is gonna do shit with this. To be useful it needs to be part of a party line on how both liberal parties act against the interests of the working class, so you should do X (like join and build another party, etc etc).
For Bernie, the X is "get fucked and vote blue no matter who".
I don't really care. I'm just saying there's no reason to dunk on him for voting to cut the military.
I just said the reason. He sheepdogs with this stuff.
I don't really care.
Then don't respond? You're coming across as dismissive.
I am dismissive because there's nothing here to dunk on and the thread is very silly.
Can I just ask, on a scale of 1 to 10, how angry would you like me to be about Bernie doing a failed, performative vote to cut the military?
Cool well I don't engage here beyond PPB with people that don't act like comrades.
I don't like dunking on voting against the military, PPB me then ig.