If you think Trump's gonna send the nukes to China because of the China struggle sessions on the hexbear site and all the others, or that online/irl leftists opinion will ever be considered in any of these situations.
The people they want to send the messages across to about Uyghur camps don't give a fuck about leftist spaces. Belarus was never ever mentioned neither here nor on any other leftist space before and they still went there to stir shit.
Of course I don't think it will directly cause war. That is why criticism is good when it has some actually important points, even if it at the same time agrees with imperialist propaganda. But if no point beyond the useless "China bad" is made, then all the criticism does is contribute to online anti-China rhetoric and make the ideology of the (hopefully) growing leftist organizations a bit more imperialist. I think the effect is non-zero, people will change their ways of thinking based on what they read online.
But if no point beyond the useless “China bad” is made, then all the criticism does is contribute to online anti-China rhetoric and make the ideology of the (hopefully) growing leftist organizations a bit more imperialist. I think the effect is non-zero, people will change their ways of thinking based on what they read online.
There are usually points behind China bad takes, a lot more than MLs here play it out to be, and also leftists can't be imperialist, that's just another ploy to get the discourse towards "well if you say that Lukashenko is bad, you're supporting fascists/you're an imperialist" (happening right in this thread btw), which literally no one does here, it's just dishonest to assume that.
And again, the stuff in Belarus, the intervention in Venezuela, the coup in Bolivia, they all happened independently from whatever the online leftist discourse was, Venezuela was criticised a lot, but the coup still failed, The one in Belarus will too, not because of our solidarity or antiimperialism or whatever.
If you think Trump's gonna send the nukes to China because of the China struggle sessions on the hexbear site and all the others, or that online/irl leftists opinion will ever be considered in any of these situations.
The people they want to send the messages across to about Uyghur camps don't give a fuck about leftist spaces. Belarus was never ever mentioned neither here nor on any other leftist space before and they still went there to stir shit.
Of course I don't think it will directly cause war. That is why criticism is good when it has some actually important points, even if it at the same time agrees with imperialist propaganda. But if no point beyond the useless "China bad" is made, then all the criticism does is contribute to online anti-China rhetoric and make the ideology of the (hopefully) growing leftist organizations a bit more imperialist. I think the effect is non-zero, people will change their ways of thinking based on what they read online.
There are usually points behind China bad takes, a lot more than MLs here play it out to be, and also leftists can't be imperialist, that's just another ploy to get the discourse towards "well if you say that Lukashenko is bad, you're supporting fascists/you're an imperialist" (happening right in this thread btw), which literally no one does here, it's just dishonest to assume that.
And again, the stuff in Belarus, the intervention in Venezuela, the coup in Bolivia, they all happened independently from whatever the online leftist discourse was, Venezuela was criticised a lot, but the coup still failed, The one in Belarus will too, not because of our solidarity or antiimperialism or whatever.