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Love it when a tradcath cryptofascist gets to dialogue with a tradcath fascist about Wookiepedia-level religious trivia

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  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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    5 months ago

    Based on archeology and stuff, early jews were Samaritans who were one of many religious sects. The whole Egypt thing is a myth as far as can be told.

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      Egypt didn't exactly have trouble finding laborers. They didn't need a bunch of Hebrews to build pyramids.

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        5 months ago

        And like...Egypt has been subject to quite a bit of archeology. Like, if you think of that country it's the first thing that comes to a western white person's mind. If anything they were looking for any evidence of early Israelite artifacts and still nothing. It is a pretty sweet story to tell about your neighborhood tho

        • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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          5 months ago

          It's kinda amazing that the ancient Egyptians made some giant piles of bricks and thousands of years later they are the first thing the average person thinks of. Alexandria probably intentionally fell into the sea because it knew everyone would just think of the pyramids when imagining Egypt. "Guess I'll just sink myself."

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            5 months ago

            Egypt has continued to be a pretty notable country for pretty much ever as well. It's not like people weren't seeing the pyramids constantly all the time throughout all the important events, Egypt has been a very historically important place for always, a d yet these incredibly ancient triangles are what continues to fascinate us. To the point a lot of people think aliens made them.or illuminati shit. If I was a guy dragging a block to build the pyramid and had the capacity to know that this would be be THE edifice to represent your time for thousands of years, I'd be whistling while I worked and would probably have signed a block if I knew how. Imagine making g something that lasted that long being your construction gig

            • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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              5 months ago

              I always enjoy thinking about stuff like that. Imagining some cynic at the pyramid construction muttering about how nobody is gonna care about the pyramids in 500 years. "Buildings come and go. But papyrus? Now that's permanent."

              Like imagining that dude in Pompeii who grabbed his junk as the ash buried him doing it as a bit. I'm 99% sure he did it because his reasoning was "ow my balls" but there's the slightest chance he was like "lol people will think I was jacking off one last time."

              • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                5 months ago

                I would live to be an actor that only appears in period pieces to dismiss stuff thst will become historicallt significant.

              • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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                5 months ago

                “Buildings come and go. But papyrus? Now that’s permanent.”

                Funnily enough, the oldest surviving examples of papyrus used for writing are roughly from the same time as the building of the great pyramids. So you can say it was a new fad then.

          • Saeculum [he/him, comrade/them]
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            5 months ago

            I mean, they're huge, they're some of the oldest human built structures in the world and they look good on a postcard.

    • KoboldKomrade [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      Even further back people inhabiting the Palestine area were polytheistic. The Abrahamic god almost certainly evolved from Yahweh and merged with El and Baal (and developed further of course).

      And the Egyptian thing is 100% myth. Likely due to Egypt dominating the area for several thousand years. As far as I remember, there's barely any evidence any significant number of Jewish settlement in Ancient Egypt at all. They definitely were interacting with each other, even looks like Egypt even conquered them at some point.

      • Saeculum [he/him, comrade/them]
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        5 months ago

        If the Egypt thing was a myth, then how did the Nazis find the ark of the covenant in an Egyptian ruin? (And why were there so many snakes?)

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        5 months ago

        The interesting thing is that there is evidence of Jewish settlement in Egypt (after the Exodus supposedly happened), but the evidence suggests that the community was composed of relatively wealthy administrators.