https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1dlmtqr/been_wanting_to_go_to_stonehenge_for_two_years/

  • kristina [she/her]
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    5 months ago

    That's because lighting yourself on fire is counterproductive and doesn't work. Direct action is fundamentally mass action and the action of groups, not individuals.

    Strikes are a prime example of direct action. It's also important that workflow is disrupted. Other forms of protest are nil, really.

    • Raphaël A. Costeau@lemmy.ml
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      5 months ago

      Strikes, sabotage, political assassination, anything is better than this kind of protest, which only succeeds in turning people against the cause and giving the protesters a self-indulgent sense that they have done their part.

      • ndondo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        5 months ago

        But thats the thing, are strikes even effective anymore? I haven't seen one that succeeded in the way that the ones described in the 30s did.

        • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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          5 months ago

          are strikes even effective anymore

          Yes, workers organizing, forming unions, going on strikes, and making demands are effective. They're not enough by themselves, but they are effective.

          I haven't seen one that succeeded in the way that the ones described in the 30s did.

          Taft Hartley did a number on union activity

        • Raphaël A. Costeau@lemmy.ml
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          5 months ago

          They are not as effective as they used to be because of the whole historical context (for starters, we no longer have a great socialist nation serving as a practical example of what can happen to the bourgeoisie if it decides to completely ignore the demands of the workers) and the fact that the working class has never been less ideologically organized than it is today. Still, strikes continue to be one of the most effective ways to force the machine of capital to listen to the demands of the working class. The problem is organizing these demands.

        • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]
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          5 months ago

          Is anything Actually working anymore? It seems like the Capitalist diaspora learned from earlier movements and now they can defeat any protest or direct action or strike easily. Sorry to be doomer here but IDK what we're supposed to do that isn't adventure-time

          • kristina [she/her]
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            5 months ago

            It stops being adventure-time when you and a lot of friends are doing it

        • kristina [she/her]
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          5 months ago

          Some countries still have fairly effective strikes, France is one