I'm curious how aware of trans culture Marx would've been. Afaik, Berlin and Paris were lgbt Meccas by the 1920s-30s, which likely didn't come out of nowhere, but of course a lot can change in like 50 years.
Sadly Marx and Engels were both massive homophobes:
“That is really a very odd ‘Urning’ you just sent me. Those are just unveilings being extremely against nature. The pederasts begin counting themselves and find that they are forming a power within the state. Only an organisation was missing, but according to this it seems to be already existing in the secret. And as they are counting so important men within all the old parties and even in the new ones, from Rösing to Schweitzer, their victory is inevitable. ‘Guerre aux cons, paix aux trous de cul’ it will go now. It is only a luck that we personally are too old to have to fear, this party gaining victory, to have to pay bodily tribute to the victors. But the young generation! By the way, only possible in Germany that a guy like that appears, translates the dirt into a theory and invites: introite, and so on. Unfortunately he was not yet as courageous as to confess openly being ‘That’, and still has to operate coram publico ‘from the front’ even though not ,from the front into as he once says by mistake. But first wait until the new North-German penal law has acknowledged the droits de cul then it will turn out quite differently. As for poor people from the front like us, with our childish favour for women, things will be going badly enough. If one could make use of that Schweitzer, it was to elicit from this strange man of honour the personal details of the high and the highest ranging pederasts, what surely would not be difficult for him as a congenial person…”
(Marx Engels Werke vol.32 -German edition - p. 324/5. Engels to Marx, June 22, 1869)
Sorry to be the one to share this with you. There’s a lot of other nasty shit in their letters as well. Kill your heroes and all that.
It's always so fucking hard to figure out who was a homophobe back in the day because they had so many euphemisms for being gay that they were terrified to say aloud that I'm like, shut the fuck up bitch and just say it you goddamn cowards
I'm curious how aware of trans culture Marx would've been. Afaik, Berlin and Paris were lgbt Meccas by the 1920s-30s, which likely didn't come out of nowhere, but of course a lot can change in like 50 years.
Sadly Marx and Engels were both massive homophobes:
“That is really a very odd ‘Urning’ you just sent me. Those are just unveilings being extremely against nature. The pederasts begin counting themselves and find that they are forming a power within the state. Only an organisation was missing, but according to this it seems to be already existing in the secret. And as they are counting so important men within all the old parties and even in the new ones, from Rösing to Schweitzer, their victory is inevitable. ‘Guerre aux cons, paix aux trous de cul’ it will go now. It is only a luck that we personally are too old to have to fear, this party gaining victory, to have to pay bodily tribute to the victors. But the young generation! By the way, only possible in Germany that a guy like that appears, translates the dirt into a theory and invites: introite, and so on. Unfortunately he was not yet as courageous as to confess openly being ‘That’, and still has to operate coram publico ‘from the front’ even though not ,from the front into as he once says by mistake. But first wait until the new North-German penal law has acknowledged the droits de cul then it will turn out quite differently. As for poor people from the front like us, with our childish favour for women, things will be going badly enough. If one could make use of that Schweitzer, it was to elicit from this strange man of honour the personal details of the high and the highest ranging pederasts, what surely would not be difficult for him as a congenial person…”
(Marx Engels Werke vol.32 -German edition - p. 324/5. Engels to Marx, June 22, 1869)
Sorry to be the one to share this with you. There’s a lot of other nasty shit in their letters as well. Kill your heroes and all that.
It's always so fucking hard to figure out who was a homophobe back in the day because they had so many euphemisms for being gay that they were terrified to say aloud that I'm like, shut the fuck up bitch and just say it you goddamn cowards
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