Get wrecked shitlibs

  • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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    6 months ago

    How are they even gonna replace him at this point? We're past the point of a primary, so unless he steps down, they are bound to him. And to my knowledge, him stepping down means Kamala becomes the defacto nominee; she's even less popular than he was lmao.

    They fucked themselves sideways with their hubris, and now that their 'vote blue no matter who' idiocy has predictably buried them, they want out?

    • Kieselguhr [none/use name]
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      6 months ago

      I think the perfect liberal candidate is a relatively good-looking dude in his 40s or 50s who seems like he knows his way around corporate leadership.

      I'm not even kidding.

      Liberal worldview:

      • They want presentability and decorum.
      • They don't want anything to fundamentally change.
      • They love things like Apple and the neoliberal corporate aesthetic.

      Liberal voters want a handsome corpo.

      That's why they love Obama, Trudeau, et al.

      macron

      It is absolutely ridiculous how out of touch they are with their own voter base.

    • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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      6 months ago

      Former United States Secretary of the Treasury William Gibbs McAdoo, 1920 candidate James Cox and Henry Ford were the main candidates. Though McAdoo won a vast majority of states, and well more than half of the popular vote, in those twelve states that held primary elections, it meant little to his performance nationwide. Once at the convention, the party was deadlocked for 102 straight ballots, before dark horse candidate John W. Davis, (who wasn't even a formal candidate when he arrived at the convention) was chosen on the 103rd ballot. Davis went on to lose the election to the Republican candidate, President Calvin Coolidge.

      Exactly 100 years ago

        • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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          6 months ago

          At the 1924 Democratic National Convention, McAdoo received the support of the Ku Klux Klan. He refused to answer questions on if he was a member of the KKK and he did not repudiate the KKK causing the Catholic vote to turn against him. McAdoo defeated Oscar Underwood, who was an opponent of the Ku Klux Klan and Prohibition, in the Georgia primary and split the Alabama delegation.

    • Sasuke [comrade/them]
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      6 months ago

      would voters even accept a new, unelected candidate this close to the election? it seems very risky, and i think most of the "top tier" candidates that has been suggested (gruesome, whitmer) are aware of that and would rather wait another four years than burn their chances at becoming president now on a desperate gamble from the DNC

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        Gruesome Gavin 100% wants this and has been engineering it already.

        He's been positioning himself as close to the Biden campaign for a while, whislt not engaging on the controversial stuff. Even before the debate his people were apparrently spending a lot of energy and favours making sure he'd be the first one called on in the spin room and the first to give interview with the TV networks after the debate. Despite saying that you "go home with the one who brought you to the dance" and a bunch of other metaphors designed to subtly point out Biden's age, while claiming he was backing him 100%, his whole performance was highlighting how different he would be from Biden in terms of ability.

        Then, as he was leaving, some smaller press junket reporter trying to ask him questions kept shouting an almost certainly planted question about he "is surely now the democratic favourite to take over" and he could barely keep up the act, shit eating grin beaming from ear to ear and laughing at how well it all went when he thought he was out of frame.

        The knives are out and Gavin is already making his play to force the issue, while claiming the opposite, and be annoited as the Biden-campaign friendly candidate.

      • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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        6 months ago

        And, there, ye might miss the forests for the trees...

        Regardless of how Biden acts, the voters are basically voting for the 'good' cop or the bad cop party, as usual... or they do not and choose a 3rd option...

      • sewer_rat_420 [he/him, any]
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        6 months ago

        Is it a gamble? It shouldn't be that hard to beat trump. Any other possible candidate would've smoked him in the debate.

    • sewer_rat_420 [he/him, any]
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      6 months ago

      If he steps out of the race now, do his delegates become unbound?

      It wouldn't automatically go to Kamala, she isn't technically on the ticket even. That gets formalized at the convention.

      Its all a moot point though because he won't step down

        • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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          6 months ago

          That’d be so bleak given she is a goddamn Zionist now, but it would be totally possible cause Democrats don’t know how to read the room.