Hello, I've been using manjaro xfce for a few months now and I'm starting to wonder if I would enjoy any other distros more, I'm not really a technical person but I really do enjoy linux so i'm willing to learn new things.

I'm looking for a distro that is minimal while not being too complex, (Manjaro keeps breaking itself for a laugth)

Please leave distro recommendations in the comments below I will be sure to play with them in live boot or in a Vm.

Thank you and have a good day, Sebo

#Update: I tryed openSUSE Tumbleweed, EndevourOS and Arch and so far I'm enjoying arch the most (I installed it with help of the wiki and a youtube guide)

  • LeFantome@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    If you like Manjaro but wish it would stop breaking, try EndevourOS ( EOS ).

    EOS does not have graphical package management. Try pacseek ( yay -S pacseek ). You can install pamac but please do not. It brings Manjaro levels of quality with it.

    • foobarijk@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      He wanted something stable.. Arch based systems require you to read the release notes each time you upgrade to make sure there's nothing special you must do. Those who are unaware of this requirement often end up with broken systems. Also I wouldn't call Arch based systems without GUI configuration tools not being too complex... Arch is for those who like to tinker, edit lots of config text files and read man pages and wiki entries.

      Personally, I like Arch Arcos and even Manjaro (Probably EOS as well, but it doesn't play well with Ventoy) - but I wouldn't recommend it to someone who just wants things to work out of the box with minimal tinkering and not require special attention when updating.

      • dino@discuss.tchncs.de
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        1 year ago

        Arch is for those who like to tinker, edit lots of config text files and read man pages and wiki entries.

        Basically how every linux user should be.

      • Zangoose@lemmy.one
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        1 year ago

        I've been using arch-based distros on multiple systems for the about 5 years now. I never read release notes, and have also never had any system-breaking updates. Occasionally I get problems with AUR packages but they usually solve themselves by doing a clean-build, reinstall, or just by waiting a day for a dependency to update. In the rare case that none of those work, there's usually a message on the AUR package page providing an exact fix. I usually just run "yay -Syu" once a day, recently I've been doing it once per week and still haven't had any real problems with it.

        • foobarijk@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          I'd say you're pretty lucky. Just a month and a half ago, there was a package conflict for my installed BLAS due to this. Last year there were this one, and this.

          It's not such a big deal, and it depends on the software you have installed. But it's something one should know could happen.

      • WorseDoughnut 🍩@lemdro.id
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        1 year ago

        I have never had to babysit an update on Endeavour. It's extremely user friendly, especially if they're already used to using the dumpster-fire that is Manjaro...

        • foobarijk@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          How long have you been using it, and on how many computers?

          From the Arch wiki:

          Before upgrading, users are expected to visit the Arch Linux home page to check the latest news, or alternatively subscribe to the RSS feed or the arch-announce mailing list. When updates require out-of-the-ordinary user intervention (more than what can be handled simply by following the instructions given by pacman), an appropriate news post will be made.

          Before upgrading fundamental software (such as the kernel, xorg, systemd, or glibc) to a new version, look over the appropriate forum to see if there have been any reported problems.

          Users must equally be aware that upgrading packages can raise unexpected problems that could need immediate intervention; therefore, it is discouraged to upgrade a stable system shortly before it is required for carrying out an important task. Instead, wait to upgrade until there is enough time available to resolve any post-upgrade issues.

          So unless Endeavour devs are doing anything special to make sure you can safely upgrade without checking the Arch news (and AFAIK, they don't, like most Arch based distros), you should probably check it. Of course it's a matter of chance if your system is the one that gets hit by some bug or conflict, YMMV, but eventually you'd hit a snag if you ignore Arch's devs advice.

    • stratoscaster@lemmy.zip
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      1 year ago

      I'm learning this the hard way with Manjaro, but also learning a lot about Linux along the way. Pulseaudio was just completely fucked and I had to switch to pipewire to get it to stop crashing lol