I mean I do care about it in the sense that I care about not wanting the US to become even more of a white supremacist Christian fascist imperialist genocidal autocracy than it already is. But I don't see anything I can do about it that would be even remotely effective. And more than that I just don't see anyone else who actually cares about it enough to even try to do something about it so what good is me "caring" even supposed to do?

Now I do see a lot of white liberals (and "progressives", and even some white people who consider themselves leftists) panicking about it. But then when pressed about what is to be done to stop it, their solution is always, always, ALWAYS just "vote for (Genocide) Joe", which tells me they don't actually care about Project 2025, they just want to use it as a cudgel to get me to vote for the same ghouls who are blowing up Palestinians and who have let the spooky scary Republican Party get this powerful. But when I point out to them that they obviously don't really care because they aren't interested in addressing the roots of fascism or doing anything real to stop fascism, they get all indignant and upset at me, call my takes "disturbing", "monstrous", "privileged", "psychotic", and after getting that a bunch I do have to wonder if maybe I just have some massive blind spot and am getting this wrong. But they won't tell me what is actually factually wrong about what I say.

Besides, what do they want me to do about it? They can't seriously expect me to back a party that loves genocide, but they won't suggest anything else.

Idk I just feel like the majority of people I see raising a fuss about Project 2025 and the threat of a "Trump dictatorship" are comfortable, privileged white liberals, usually white queer liberals, who have never had to worry about the government targeting their demographics until the last few years. I and every other queer poc I know is like, "oh, they're going to go after me for another thing? Sure whatever, put it on the pile of other shit they throw at us, what's one more? Now let's get back to trying to stop the fascist Democratic Party from stealing money from our paychecks to bankroll a genocide against some of the actual most vulnerable and oppressed people in the world. If Project 2025 actually lands here we'll fight that too, but we will NEVER throw away our solidarity with the wretched of the earth to preserve what comfort we do have."

Please Hexbearians, tell it to me straight: Is Project 2025 something we actually need to pay attention to and if so what can we actually do about it? Or is the furor over it just a bunch of fragile white people panicking because they might finally be lumped in with the rest of us and finally get targeted for oppression too?

  • silent_water [she/her]
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    6 months ago

    the one concerning aspect about it is that they can use it's framework to come after sites like this one and queer discords -- discord/reddit/twitter will probably ban queer content. I think the main thing to do is make sure they can't actually target the site.

    but like... it's framework is so similar to the fugitive slave act that I just take it as one more indicator that a civil war is coming. real test for liberals is whether their party's attorneys general cave to demands to extradite queer people. if they don't grow a spine at that point, a lot of people are going to get hurt.

    • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
      hexagon
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      6 months ago

      That's it? That's nothing! Online censorship is not the thing I fear, mass-murder is, and both parties have a history of mass-murder already

      • silent_water [she/her]
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        6 months ago

        can't do much about the rest of it but the normal organizing that's already ongoing.

        edit: oh, I should clarify. they want to extradite people running/posting on sites that "promote queer ideology". I'm referring to the dragnet.

        • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
          hexagon
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          6 months ago

          Joke's on them due to my family's race and religion we've been on the deport list for years, it can't get worse than that

          • silent_water [she/her]
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            6 months ago

            for citizens, they can't deport them without a Supreme Court ruling they don't have yet. what they can do is jail or kill.

        • WIIHAPPYFEW [he/him, they/them]
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          6 months ago

          Where the fuck would they try to send us, would they just parachute us into Tijuana or hand us over to Italy or Thailand, what’s their plan