I mean I do care about it in the sense that I care about not wanting the US to become even more of a white supremacist Christian fascist imperialist genocidal autocracy than it already is. But I don't see anything I can do about it that would be even remotely effective. And more than that I just don't see anyone else who actually cares about it enough to even try to do something about it so what good is me "caring" even supposed to do?

Now I do see a lot of white liberals (and "progressives", and even some white people who consider themselves leftists) panicking about it. But then when pressed about what is to be done to stop it, their solution is always, always, ALWAYS just "vote for (Genocide) Joe", which tells me they don't actually care about Project 2025, they just want to use it as a cudgel to get me to vote for the same ghouls who are blowing up Palestinians and who have let the spooky scary Republican Party get this powerful. But when I point out to them that they obviously don't really care because they aren't interested in addressing the roots of fascism or doing anything real to stop fascism, they get all indignant and upset at me, call my takes "disturbing", "monstrous", "privileged", "psychotic", and after getting that a bunch I do have to wonder if maybe I just have some massive blind spot and am getting this wrong. But they won't tell me what is actually factually wrong about what I say.

Besides, what do they want me to do about it? They can't seriously expect me to back a party that loves genocide, but they won't suggest anything else.

Idk I just feel like the majority of people I see raising a fuss about Project 2025 and the threat of a "Trump dictatorship" are comfortable, privileged white liberals, usually white queer liberals, who have never had to worry about the government targeting their demographics until the last few years. I and every other queer poc I know is like, "oh, they're going to go after me for another thing? Sure whatever, put it on the pile of other shit they throw at us, what's one more? Now let's get back to trying to stop the fascist Democratic Party from stealing money from our paychecks to bankroll a genocide against some of the actual most vulnerable and oppressed people in the world. If Project 2025 actually lands here we'll fight that too, but we will NEVER throw away our solidarity with the wretched of the earth to preserve what comfort we do have."

Please Hexbearians, tell it to me straight: Is Project 2025 something we actually need to pay attention to and if so what can we actually do about it? Or is the furor over it just a bunch of fragile white people panicking because they might finally be lumped in with the rest of us and finally get targeted for oppression too?

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    6 months ago

    they get all indignant and upset at me, call my takes "disturbing", "monstrous", "privileged", "psychotic"

    this monstrous genocidal machine is what's disturbing, and their privilege is to still internalize the ideological psychosis of believing liberalism is not materially aligned with fascism. the actual current and happening genocide is worse and deserves immediate resistance more than the theoretical genocide that will probably never but possibly interrupt their cozy brunch.

    ultimately i think it is an existential fear that plagues these people, and they find our takes abhorent because we are the ones saying that the enemy is already inside the house and cannot be excised by the ballot box.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Word. 2025 fears seem very quaint when McConnell completed his conquest of the federal judiciary almost a decade ago. The libs are fearmongering about what the gop might do while the scotus has been ruling the country by decree since Dobbs and the DNC has bone nothing about it. The GOP can rule the country by sending lawsuits up to the scotus and writing law via "judicial review". If they take the presidency it'll go faster, but without resistance or opposition it will happen regardless. Dems can't accept that they lost during the Obummer admin and they're too ignorant, indoctrinated, and idealistic to recognize it.

      • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
        hexagon
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        6 months ago

        This is something I find so frustrating about the libs. They basically handed their supposed enemies victory over and over again and are now saying that it's up to us to save the country from the disaster they enabled, but they will also only accept salvation if it's done by doing exactly what led to this point.

        For all that Copmala talks about how we didn't fall out of the coconut tree and need to envision a future unburdened by what has been, when I actually envision a future free of their bullshit they clutch their pearls and say it'll never work.

      • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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        6 months ago

        Remember in 2008 or whatever when libs were convinced that Republicans were one or two states away from having enough governors to pull off a constitutional convention?

    • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
      hexagon
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      6 months ago

      Mao: Political power grows out of the barrel of a ballot

      their privilege is to still internalize the ideological psychosis of believing liberalism is not materially aligned with fascism

      This is probably why it gets so frustrating dealing with them, because they are just in denial about how decades of doing things their way has resulted in fascism.

      the actual current and happening genocide is worse and deserves immediate resistance more than the theoretical genocide that will probably never but possibly interrupt their cozy brunch.

      beautifully said, 100%