ohh nooo, hes so mean to us while also letting us do exactly what we want, and drone striking an iranian general that was acting as a diplomatic envoy at our request, oh nooooo hes sooo bad for us
heh apparently we dont actually want to do all these warcrimes we keep doing, we are just so mad about these warcrimes that just keep happening, we keep telling folks "nono dont do the warcrimes" but it just keeps happening heh
the issue youre having is that you want to convince me of something, and im not being convinced or even entertaining the idea of being convinced.
you can feel free to believe whatever you want bud, but im going to shitpost when you say shit like "no achktuchally the military industrial complex haaates that we murdered an iranian! they havent wanted to go to war in iran lately at all!"
I'm really not trying to convince you, but it is hard to feel like you're being heard when someone sarcastically shoots down things you say. I didn't even say what you paraphrased, so why'd you get that?
you literally said that trumps military advisors were mad about us bombing soleimani. an iranian general. who was acting as a diplomat. which is a warcrime.
Do you think that we're engaging in a way that would make me feel like you want to talk to me? When you sarcastically refer to things I said and rephrase them to positions I don't hold? Saying things like "achktuchally"? Would you want to keep talking to someone who talked to you like that?
I actually don't give a fuck about civility, I just thought I could talk to someone else on the left without feeling like I'm trying to talk to an AI bot whose neural net was CTH and 9gag.
and now youre calling me a bot because i dared call your shit take about the military hating trump over bombing an iranian that they wanted to bomb a shit take... oh how the turns table
You didn't even call it a shit take because you were too busy passive-aggressively meming. And that's why this sucks because it's all disingenuous shit.
dude... this is literally a forum that is all about passive aggressive meming.
yes, i could probably be nicer, but youre getting all bent out of shape because im not writing a big long sincere effort about why exactly it is that thinking trump is hated by the warhawks is absolute nonsense. the simple fact that he bombed a diplomat should clarify that for you
I don't expect people to conform to shit. I'd hope that I can talk to another leftist without him being a cock. But you're pretty clear on where you stand there, so just stop talking to me.
buddy pal friendo, when you say "the warhawks hate trump!" and i say "trump bombed am iranian general acting as a diplomat" thats not removing context, its adding it.
when you respond "no but they couldnt stop him his advisers hated that!" and i say "they literally stopped him from attempting the same thing to the syrian president" thats not removing context, its adding it.
when you say "imma pretend you only said this one part that i like and ignore entirely why you said it!" thats removing context.
When I say that the military dislikes Trump and you say that he bombed someone, that doesn't mean the military doesn't still fucking hate Trump. And when he went against their advisement one time and didn't go against their advisement the next time, that doesn't mean they didn't want him to drone strike Soleimani. So then when you admit you'd been acting like an asshole but that you felt justified, I thought it would be nice to just overlook your dumbass justification.
Anyway! Are we gonna keep doing this? This is tiresome.
ohh nooo, hes so mean to us while also letting us do exactly what we want, and drone striking an iranian general that was acting as a diplomatic envoy at our request, oh nooooo hes sooo bad for us
Heh apparently he was advised NOT to do that and the advisers were mad about it
heh apparently we dont actually want to do all these warcrimes we keep doing, we are just so mad about these warcrimes that just keep happening, we keep telling folks "nono dont do the warcrimes" but it just keeps happening heh
Oh I mean trust me I know they want to commit some, just not THAT PARTICULAR one at THAT PARTICULAR time.
yeah okay. given that they convinced hum that bombing assad would be a bad whoopsy, im pretty sure they couldve convinced him not to do that one too.
they didnt
Can we just engage with each other? This feels unnecessarily hostile and I'm having a hard time talking to you.
... i havent even called you a lib once.
the issue youre having is that you want to convince me of something, and im not being convinced or even entertaining the idea of being convinced.
you can feel free to believe whatever you want bud, but im going to shitpost when you say shit like "no achktuchally the military industrial complex haaates that we murdered an iranian! they havent wanted to go to war in iran lately at all!"
I'm really not trying to convince you, but it is hard to feel like you're being heard when someone sarcastically shoots down things you say. I didn't even say what you paraphrased, so why'd you get that?
you literally said that trumps military advisors were mad about us bombing soleimani. an iranian general. who was acting as a diplomat. which is a warcrime.
"Heh ... the advisers were mad about it"
?? where would i get that idea ??
Do you think that we're engaging in a way that would make me feel like you want to talk to me? When you sarcastically refer to things I said and rephrase them to positions I don't hold? Saying things like "achktuchally"? Would you want to keep talking to someone who talked to you like that?
oh, im sorry, you think civility is important. i didnt realize. how dare i be vaguely rude about your opinion on the internet by doing a meme.
:LIB:
I actually don't give a fuck about civility, I just thought I could talk to someone else on the left without feeling like I'm trying to talk to an AI bot whose neural net was CTH and 9gag.
and now youre calling me a bot because i dared call your shit take about the military hating trump over bombing an iranian that they wanted to bomb a shit take... oh how the turns table
You didn't even call it a shit take because you were too busy passive-aggressively meming. And that's why this sucks because it's all disingenuous shit.
dude... this is literally a forum that is all about passive aggressive meming.
yes, i could probably be nicer, but youre getting all bent out of shape because im not writing a big long sincere effort about why exactly it is that thinking trump is hated by the warhawks is absolute nonsense. the simple fact that he bombed a diplomat should clarify that for you
Let's pretend that's all you said and start over in terms of talking to each other.
no, because that takes it out of the context in which it was said.
the context being that you really need to stop expecting people to conform to your expectations of conduct
I don't expect people to conform to shit. I'd hope that I can talk to another leftist without him being a cock. But you're pretty clear on where you stand there, so just stop talking to me.
"you wont let me take your sincere statements out of context so that i can ignore the meaning behind them? never talk to me or my posts again!"
oh fuck off
That's literally what you were doing with my statements, don't get butthurt now.
no. it wasnt. learn what context and meaning are lib
Yes you did, now quit being nasty.
no u
i will never stop being nasty
It's just layers and layers of irony, bud. How exhausting.
buddy pal friendo, when you say "the warhawks hate trump!" and i say "trump bombed am iranian general acting as a diplomat" thats not removing context, its adding it.
when you respond "no but they couldnt stop him his advisers hated that!" and i say "they literally stopped him from attempting the same thing to the syrian president" thats not removing context, its adding it.
when you say "imma pretend you only said this one part that i like and ignore entirely why you said it!" thats removing context.
can you really not see the difference?
When I say that the military dislikes Trump and you say that he bombed someone, that doesn't mean the military doesn't still fucking hate Trump. And when he went against their advisement one time and didn't go against their advisement the next time, that doesn't mean they didn't want him to drone strike Soleimani. So then when you admit you'd been acting like an asshole but that you felt justified, I thought it would be nice to just overlook your dumbass justification.
Anyway! Are we gonna keep doing this? This is tiresome.
"when you admit youd been acting like an asshole"
no.
anyways fuck off
I'd still be happy to talk, but you'd need to stop being so hostile. Feel free to message me if you want.