I know that it's popular to dismiss President Biden. I get it. He's old. This is the first election featuring the 2 oldest candidates, ever. So what? The future of the WORLD is literally dependent on this election. To boot Biden from the ticket and try to bootstrap another candidate is madness. Booting this incumbent and hoping his VP will succeed is like firing the cook and hoping the dishwasher will give you Michelin-quality food. Stick with the old man, and figure out a way to enact his popular policies while also expanding the Supreme Court, enacting term limits and limiting "Christian" Nationalists.

  • booty [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    The future of the WORLD is literally dependent on this election.

    Wow sounds like they really should've put forward a better candidate than Biden screm-cool

      • booty [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        lol i love nate bronze, my favorite copium dealer

          • booty [he/him]
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            2 months ago

            wait, what? i thought 538 was his project, who fired him lmao

            #FreeNate

            • Wakmrow [he/him]
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              2 months ago

              He very smartly sold 538 to ABC/ESPN/Disney and I don't know why they fired him but they did.

    • frippa@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Trump: evil dictatorial genocide

      Biden: acceptable, respectable genocide

      Obama: What genocide?

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    The future of the WORLD is literally dependent on this election.

    Get an electable candidate then.

  • That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    I get it. He's old. So what?

    No, you don't get it. It's not just a matter of age, it's a matter of severe cognitive impairment due to his age. He's a few brain cells away from becoming a gibbering vegetable.

    It's rather alarming that the only qualification to be the Democrat nominee is to have a pulse. Not a brain, not an agenda, not a set of policies and initiatives. Just a pulse and nothing more.

    At that point, who's actually making the decisions? Who controls the nuclear codes? Who is commanding the military? It's not Biden, but some anonymous unelected staffers?

    • heavyboots@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      This is hilarious. The dude is running the country quite well right at this moment. Stop buying into the BS hype the press is trying to foment for click-bait profits.

      • Wakmrow [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        I have a very different opinion on the definition of "quite well" lol

  • Ildsaye [they/them]
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    2 months ago

    good-lord Yes, and you say the Democratic Party considers this election the most important of our lifetimes despite the fact that the wavering in the party is obviously top-down

  • Count042@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Any call for sticking with a candidate with these poll numbers BEFORE the convention is a paid operation by Russians trying to get Trump elected.

    *I don't actually think you're a bot, just preemptively using that argument when I know the idiots trying to tether us to an egotistical, genocidal asshole that will lose to Trump will call me a bot for pointing out correctly that Biden will lose.

      • Count042@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        So, is the DNC entirely staffed by Russian bots?

        Is Biden a Russian bot?

        You were/are completely wrong. Please take a moment and consider the assumptions and ways of thinking that lead you to be this wrong.

  • anachronist@midwest.social
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    2 months ago

    The future of the WORLD is literally dependent on this election

    Been hearing this every four years my entire life.

    Booting this incumbent and hoping his VP

    I agree. Kamala is the worst politician in America. How did we end up in the timeline where we're stuck in the plot of VEEP?

    • NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      hyperbolic

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      adjective (1)

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      variants or less commonly hyperbolical

      ˌhī-pər-ˈbä-li-kəl

      : of, relating to, or marked by language that exaggerates or overstates the truth : of, relating to, or marked by hyperbole hyperbolic claims

  • mayo_cider [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    I was going to vote for biden but trump showed real gumption when he got shot so i switched sides

    • anachronist@midwest.social
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      2 months ago

      I was going to vote for biden but trump showed real gumption when he got shot so i switched sides

      [This is what Democrats actually believe America would do]

      The fact that Democrats decided that the race was over when he got not-shot shows how unserious they are.

    • heavyboots@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Pretty hopeful this is a joke? Please?

      Because if not, getting a scratch on the side of your ear doesn't change the fact he's been not only tried but convicted of sexual assault, election tampering and fraud. Juries and judges got to look at the actual evidence (not the lies he spews on a minute-by-minute basis) and found him guilty.

  • D61 [any]
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    2 months ago

    feels like a bait post

    figure out a way to enact his popular policies

    Shouldn't... shouldn't he be trying to enact policies that the Democratic party supporters, progressives, liberals want? That seems to be what's sinking his re-election chances.

    People don't want the genocide in Palestine to continue, but Joe is going to keep it going.

    People don't want the USA to keep getting in the way of Russia and Ukraine ending the war there but Joe seems to be fine keeping it going.

    People in general are pretty cool with transgender people getting proper healthcare throughout their lives. Biden's administration puts out messaging saying that trans healthcare is harmful to trans people so its okay to limit or ban it.

    People are okay with abortion services being a thing. Biden is a pro-life candidate and hasn't really been doing anything to codify abortion services into any federal law.

    People would like more affordable electric commuter vehicles. Biden's administration tariffs the shit out of Chinese manufactured electric vehicles available for import with some weak argument about it being "unfair."

    There's probably more examples but shrugs its not like Biden is going to do anything. Waiting until the last few months before elections to suddenly put out messaging about changing how the supreme court is staffed instead of doing it almost four years ago when everybody was talking about how Trump got to pack the SC with only the ripest of reactionary picks and all the ways Biden could curb the effect the SC has on US politics/laws, feels too much like closing the barn doors after all the animals have got loose.

  • crusa187@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    To bury your head in the sand and continue to claim Biden is the best chance to defeat Trump is madness.

    Look, I get it, the DNC has placed us in a terribly frightening position due to their unwillingness to test the president in a real primary so he could show us he’s the best choice to beat Trump, and now in the final hour we are learning that was all smoke and mirrors. Biden is way down in all the polls, and forcing him onto the ticket now means certain defeat.

    We still have plenty of time to generate enormous voter enthusiasm for a new ticket, more than Biden could ever garner, and we can use that to catapult the Dems to a big win in November. Have a process where candidates debate and demonstrate how their approaches would differ from where Biden was unpopular. Use a small fraction of the campaign war chest to televise it everywhere, especially online. This should include Kamala, and she needs to prove she can maintain her delegates if she wants the nom. Let’s not make the same mistake twice. Assuming she succeeds here, she is the incumbent VP, so would maintain that theoretical advantage, but we get the tailwind of a fresh ticket with a new VP who can totally change the narrative. This is the Dems’ chance to get back in the saddle and provide a new alternative people are willing to vote for - it should be celebrated!

    • heavyboots@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      He's running the freaking country right now and has been for the last 3 and a half years. The "he's old" crowd don't seem to get that he's old and effective?

      • robotElder2 [he/him, it/its]
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        2 months ago

        What part of those three and a half years makes him seem effective to you? The genocide? Is it how food costs twice as much now? Maybe your a fan of still catching covid at least once a year?

        • heavyboots@lemmy.ml
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          2 months ago

          Oh yeah, it would have all turned out much better under Trump! /s

          Seriously though, he's had a ridiculous congress to attempt to work with and he's still gotten quite a few things done. Restarted FCC and FDA at their jobs of actually regulating. Infrastructure bills. Student loan relief. Airline accountability. Wiping out non-compete clauses by companies. Huge economic recovery from the hole Trump had dug for us.

          • robotElder2 [he/him, it/its]
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            2 months ago

            That's the FDA that let's them feed chicken shit with bird flu to the cows right? And the "build back better" that completely failed to build a chip fab in the middle of the desert? And the loan relief that was deliberately written to be as easily blocked by the courts as possible? And the planes that keep crashing? I'm real impressed.

            Did you ever notice how as the Republicans get more openly fascist the Democrat response is always to also get more fascist? Why shouldn't they when they can always count on the support of marks like you? The only way to break the cycle is to put your fucking foot down and refuse to vote for anyone who fails to meet standards. If that means the dems never win again and join the whigs then good goddamn riddance, they were a hinderence anyway.

            • heavyboots@lemmy.ml
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              2 months ago

              OK, so you can criticize real good. What's your actual, legal plan to switch Democratic candidates at such a late date? Everyone loves to criticize Biden and play fantasy football about who they would pick, but as near as I can tell, the only other person who could legally be chosen is Kamala Harris.

              Who is already on the ticket and will take over if something does happen to Biden. Oh, and if you think putting a black, female candidate up against Trump is suddenly going to win hearts and minds, then I have a Nigerian prince I'd like to put you in touch with for a small finders fee.

              Actually, I am pretty sure this is a Russian bot account anyway, but what the heck, let's see what your response is.

              • robotElder2 [he/him, it/its]
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                2 months ago

                You blueannon dullards really think everyone you argue with is a bot huh? Its that hard for you to imagine someone not enthused for the diet fash party? And if I am real I bet I'm the one in the echo chamber too aren't I?

                • heavyboots@lemmy.ml
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                  2 months ago

                  No, but if you're not voting for whoever the Dem candidate is, you're the one promoting fascism and an end to worker rights at this juncture, so… ¯_(ツ)_/¯

                  • robotElder2 [he/him, it/its]
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                    2 months ago

                    The democrats are also a fascist, anti worker party. It's pathetic that this good cop bad cop routine works on you every time. You have no ability to see beyond the one stage managed false dilemma put immediately in front of you, nor to remember the one before. It's like you have no object permanence.

              • robotElder2 [he/him, it/its]
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                2 months ago

                Oh I don't give a shit about replacing Biden at this late hour. The time for that was years ago, this election is cooked. And anyway anyone acceptable to me would be completely unacceptable to the DNC. Thats the fucking problem. I'm voting PSL to register my demand for a socialist and trying to find some kind of org in my suburban hellscape.

                  • booty [he/him]
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                    2 months ago

                    Fascism won a long time ago, you're just willfully ignorant of it. And they've got you sitting here wasting your time trying to plead with everyone to go perform the magic ritual to put the blue team fascist in charge because you're convinced the end of the world is coming if the red team fascist is in charge instead.

                    The fascist you're so scared of was already president. Joe Biden ran against him with the promise, "Nothing will fundamentally change." And nothing fundamentally changed--that might have been the only honest thing Biden has ever said in his life.

      • crusa187@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        Mental decline at advanced age can have a very sudden and dramatic impact. What matters for this election isn’t the past 3.5 years, it’s the next 5 months and following 4 years.

        Biden’s effectiveness and policies are debatable in quality, but clearly he is not in the driver’s seat at this juncture. His staff, all unelected officials, are. If you’ve been happy with their performance, then you’re in luck, because the makeup of the administration is unlikely to change significantly with a new presidential ticket, especially if it’s Kamala.

  • Count042@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Sounds like Biden is likely to resign this weekend. I guess the entirety of the Democratic party is russian bots, right?

    You might want to think through the thought process that lead you to be so wrong about what was happening, and why you ended up being a follower while the people you were following were deciding to go in the opposite direction.