You've laid out a definition of capitalism here (I would disagree with it strongly, but leaving that aside), what is your working definition of fascism then? Because I don't see anything inherently incompatible between say, Umberto Eco's 14 tenets of fascism, and your definition of capitalism.
Fascism - a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Any government interference with economics is anti-capitalism. So automatically, a large government is incompatible with capitalism.
I can't tell if it is a bit account, or a reactionary (libertarian?) truly detached from conscious thought; bearing witness to 'Nazi Germany wasn't capitalist' and 'socialism is when the government does stuff' takes are absolutely hilarious, even swaths of don't buy that garbage any longer.
Further down, we've got the take of "Remove power from the government and you'll get corporations out of lobbying"...yes? Obviously?
Much like if you want to stop getting door to door salesmen at your house, you can completely demolish it.
Capitalism - an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market.
Any government interference with economics is anti-capitalism. So automatically, a large government is incompatible with capitalism.
This is entirely false. A powerful state is required to uphold and protect private property rights for capitalists. It's also required to declare war on other states for not opening themselves up to capitalists and their businesses. See: the history of the West from the beginning of the Industrial Revolution to the present. The governments of Europe sent their armies and navies around the world destroying civilizations and societes wherever they found them, and the capitalists followed in their wake, establishing markets protected by those troops, with cargo ships protected by those navies going to and fro. The modern situation is not so different, with the state providing police forces to protect the businesses and homes of the rich, establishing laws to protect them from major consequences, destroying rebelling countries with their armies for the capitalists to come in and seize what remains, and so on. The state also helps corporations with subsidies, such as Tesla. In 2008, you might remember that the state saved the banks from imploding.
The market and the state are not opposites, especially when the bourgeoisie are in charge of the state, as the state is the apparatus through which their class interests are enacted. The market is a tool - often a brutal tool - that the state can employ to achieve its interests.
You've laid out a definition of capitalism here (I would disagree with it strongly, but leaving that aside), what is your working definition of fascism then? Because I don't see anything inherently incompatible between say, Umberto Eco's 14 tenets of fascism, and your definition of capitalism.
Merriam Webster seems fine.
Fascism - a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Any government interference with economics is anti-capitalism. So automatically, a large government is incompatible with capitalism.
Alright, I see we aren't being serious here.
I can't tell if it is a bit account, or a reactionary (libertarian?) truly detached from conscious thought; bearing witness to 'Nazi Germany wasn't capitalist' and 'socialism is when the government does stuff' takes are absolutely hilarious, even swaths of
don't buy that garbage any longer.
Further down, we've got the
take of "Remove power from the government and you'll get corporations out of lobbying"...yes? Obviously?
Much like if you want to stop getting door to door salesmen at your house, you can completely demolish it.
Also from Merriam Webster:
Capitalism - an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market.
Clearly these are incompatible
yeah, I remember when I was twelve too. here's some links in case you don't want to continue showing your whole ass while the world burns
Chapo Trap House 245 - Inebriated Past: The Monster Fash (9/13/18)
addendum Fascism II: Legend of Adolf's Gold
This is entirely false. A powerful state is required to uphold and protect private property rights for capitalists. It's also required to declare war on other states for not opening themselves up to capitalists and their businesses. See: the history of the West from the beginning of the Industrial Revolution to the present. The governments of Europe sent their armies and navies around the world destroying civilizations and societes wherever they found them, and the capitalists followed in their wake, establishing markets protected by those troops, with cargo ships protected by those navies going to and fro. The modern situation is not so different, with the state providing police forces to protect the businesses and homes of the rich, establishing laws to protect them from major consequences, destroying rebelling countries with their armies for the capitalists to come in and seize what remains, and so on. The state also helps corporations with subsidies, such as Tesla. In 2008, you might remember that the state saved the banks from imploding.
The market and the state are not opposites, especially when the bourgeoisie are in charge of the state, as the state is the apparatus through which their class interests are enacted. The market is a tool - often a brutal tool - that the state can employ to achieve its interests.
I feel for you man. Not only are you still going ham with the news updates, but now you gotta deal with libs like this person.
Fucking hell, I cannot imagine being arrogant enough to start popping off about a subject I knew this little about.