• abdul [none/use name]
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    It’s all just distractions. I don’t give two shits about what happens to this lady or what she did. If she was worth the attention she’s getting, she wouldn’t have drafted such a useless law and used up the social capital from breonnas death on something as inconsequential as a simple ban on no knock raids.

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      a ban on no knock raids would have significant material effect on peoples not getting murdered in their fucking sleep by the police state.

      is it as good as a ban on police? no. but a ban on no knock raids is literally the whole reason leftists participate in electoralism at all; the implementation of good and effective measures to help save peoples lives by putting a check on the systems power, while simultaneously working to dismantle that system entire.

      a black woman just got hauled in by the police state for daring to propose that state not be allowed to lynch her on a whim, and youre over there grumbling that she wasnt doing a hard enough praxis.

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        Have you ever met a cop before? You think it’d be hard to lie about that?

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          the point isnt to stop cops lyin.

          they falsified the warrant used to murder breonna taylor. the legislation isnt about making falsified warrants illegal

          but imagine it were. imagine a black female legislator drafted a bill to make falsified warrants even more extra especially illegal than it already is and then the police nabbed her for it.

          can you see how your response of "yeah but her legislation was stupid so idgaf about what happens to her" would be absurd?

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            you’re missing the point of what I’m saying in a pretty big way here, so it’s hard for me to say whether you’re arguing in good faith or not. I’ll restate what I said:

            Banning no knock raids is stupid and useless because saying you knocked on a door in the middle of the night when everyone is asleep is an unfalsifable claim.

            I’m not a legislator so I can’t speak to what kind of law should have received the title “breonnas law” but naming it after that is a mockery of her death

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              youre missing the point of what im saying in a pretty big way here, so it’s hard for me to say whether you’re arguing in good faith or not. I’ll restate what I said:

              the legislation in question is fucking irrelevant you numpty motherfuck. the police state just seized a legislator for being a black woman that tried to lodge even a tepid complaint about the wanton murder of people by said police state.

              unsurprising? sure.

              but your response to that is, and i quote "I don’t give two shits about what happens to this lady"

              fuck off lib.

              p.s. thinking its a mockery to name legislation after a person who died to make that legislation seem possible only for the people that murdered said person to arrest the legislator that proposed it? lol what?

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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      Is your concern that the people who the state is leveling its wrath upon aren't sufficiently radical? Would you rather them instead proceed in order from most radical to least radical? Would you rather they start with you, since you're apparently to the left of Mao?

      This whole line of reasoning is bullshit. The state is flailing and lashing out at anyone they interpret to be a threat. This is no time to be saying an advocate for the cause is not "worth paying attention to." Even if you consider the measures too small, they were in the right direction and the state has made a political prisoner out of her.

      It is a golden opportunity to demonstrate exactly why her bill is just a drop in the bucket as far as the changes we need, but you'll never get her supporters or the community she just got arrested fighting for on your side by telling them she "doesn't matter."

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        Don’t care. Too blackpilled to affect change. I’d like to see her killers be brought to justice, but caring about why a gloryhound got arrested aint it

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            You’ve misunderstood me. I would like to see it happen. I do not care, however, because I know it won’t.

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              if you "want to see justice" but dont want to take any action to make that justice a possibility, and furthermore denegrate anyone that does take action, you dont want to see justice.

              tldr you dont know shit

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            You’ve confused my position. I care about the larger struggle. What I don’t care about is the Government designated martyr behind breonnas law.