There's some guy I talk to who believes the theory that the top 20 percent of dudes get 80% of women, and that because he doesn't have a brad pitt jaw and isn't 6' +, he might as well just hate women because they'll never like him anyways.

  • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
    hexagon
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    5 months ago

    I'm not trying to be rude, but this does sound like incel rhetoric minus the woman hating. I see tons of short fat guys with weak jaws or, no cheekbones or even slightly balding. Get some pretty women and even marry them.

    Not like 10/10 Godessss or movies stars or whatever but pretty cute women.

    Part of dating is also getting shot down dude. We've all had it happen. You telling me 'oh all women seem to hate me and it's because I'm not a chad' is kind of lame to me.

    I'm happy you're not a misogynist, but you still have some warped thinking you need to work on.

    I'll concede that short dudes like 5'8 and under do maybe have it a little tougher than some in the dating market and in the west, if you're Indian or east Asian, yeah shit will be a little harder. But not impossible

    • AlpineSteakHouse [any]
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      5 months ago

      I'm not trying to be rude, but this does sound like incel rhetoric minus the woman hating. I see tons of short fat guys with weak jaws or, no cheekbones or even slightly balding. Get some pretty women and even marry them.

      I see these people too. They're usually older and in more conservative areas. Dating for young people is completely different and for every awkward guy I know that got a girl, I know 10 that have been single their whole lives. I'm not fatalistic, it's just not likely for this to happen.

      You telling me 'oh all women seem to hate me and it's because I'm not a chad' is kind of lame to me.

      I don't think women hate me, they just don't view me as a potential partner. I've made friends with a few while trying to date. They're simply human beings reacting rationally to their environment. If the situations were reversed, most men would probably choose a chance at a very attractive partner over a guarantee with an average one.

      I'm happy you're not a misogynist, but you still have some warped thinking you need to work on.

      Honestly I just feel gaslit by society at this point. At what point will my years of rejection be enough to show people that I'm unwanted? I worked on myself, put forth effort, made friends of both genders, got some dates, and I still haven't met a single person who even considered me on option. There isn't someone for everyone. That's cruel I think its crueler that we pretend if these people just got out more they'd all be able to find someone. It's why you shouldn't tell kids in poverty that they can become president if they work hard, the circumstances of your birth determine how far you can go.

      It sucks but there's more to life than a romantic partner. Besides that I'm pretty fulfilled. Give it a few more years of trying and then I'll give up forever.

      • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
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        5 months ago

        Please don't break my post down like a reddit debate guy 🙏 (jk)

        I'm 34 so not that old and I see plenty of zoomer women with guys who are like 4s if we're going to be rating people in that way.

        Why don't you tell me what exactly is wrong with your face and height in your eyes?

        That word akward is important and I'm going to hone in on that later.

        You know what I mean, they don't literally hate you as a person. You mean they just find you as a romantic partner automatically unattractive because you aren't a 'chad'

        The whole they're 'reacting naturally' thing is very much veering toward Blackpill rhetoric. I see incels saying almost verbatim this same thing. As if women have no agency and are automatically drawn to a 'chad' no matter what.

        I get the feeling it's more you're off-putting and AWKWARD socially in some way you can't see yourself, rather than you being hideous.

        I know the dating world is also extremely tough for men who aren't neurotypical

        I don't hate you man and I'm certainly not trying to pick on you. I just really dislike black pill rhetoric.