• Superduperthx [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    As a vegan, I still don't get the speciesism shit. Like, most vegans will still always prioritize people over animals. That doesn't mean we can't have animal rights or killing and eating them, but yeah, animals are necessary for a lot of medical research and termite infestations are still gonna be met with extermination.

    • LaBellaLotta [any]
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      4 years ago

      The idea of speciesism is really simple. The idea is that Other animals are just as deserving of life as we are and the core assumption of animal agriculture; that by raising and maintaining the lives of animals We can decide when and how they die, is fallacious and inherently cruel. The arguments for this tend to center around how when the Nazis we’re designing concentration camps they looked to slaughterhouses for inspiration on how to do a mass extermination. That might sound like bougie Zionist veganism that doesn’t properly account for the value of human life. But I personally think it’s a profound idea because every genocide begins with the dehumanization of the enemy and the fact that dehumanization usually translates directly to “its ok to murder and brutalize them” is evidence that there’s something to the idea IMO. I think it’s debatable how Necessary or even valuable animals are for medical research and honestly pests like termites can be directly harmful to ones health and the health of their family so that kinda falls into a similar category of like what you do when attacked by an animal; you gotta kill the Animal or atleast get it very far away from you because otherwise it will physically harm you. We’re allowed to prioritize human lives over other animals just as any other species would with their own. We just can’t ethically capture or keep livestock with intent to slaughter because that’s just as bad as fattening up Some other person so you can eat them later.

      • LaBellaLotta [any]
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        4 years ago

        In even simpler terms the argument boils down to pointing out the dangerous fallacy of the logic that we can rape and murder cows and other animals and it’s not ethically wrong because they aren’t human.