• Koa_lala [he/him]
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    I did not call anyone a degenerate. The vast majority of people are not overweight because of mental disorders, but because of American culture being unhealthy as fuck. If you have a eating disorder, well yeah, you need therapy. But that isn't ultimately going to make you less fat.

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      So what's your point here? Just yell at people with addictions to stop being addicted? Does that work with porn addicts, with alcoholics, with people addicted to heroin?

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        You act like 70% in America is addicted to food. The vast majority is not. It's the fact that you get a fucking litre of coke with a fucking meal that makes you all fat.

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          Yeah, you're right, that doesn't give children addictions to the sugars they've been exposed to their whole lives. Wow, genius.

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            So what's your solution to addiction? Keep doing it? And keep the culture of eating unhealthy shit going?

            • Femma [she/her]
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              Did I say that? Of course it needs to be changed. You solve absolutely nothing by being a prick about it like this, though. Leftism is about sympathy and helping people. Not yelling at them like a fucking /pol/ bastard about things they know are a problem, but is incredibly difficult to break out of because of the capitalist systems which created the problem in the first place. Like I said, you don't get somebody to stop smoking by acting like a fuck like this. You get people to stop smoking by punishing cigarette company execs and gradually banning the sale of cigarettes.

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                So, before we manage to change society, how is an individual right now, going to lose weight and change their eating habbits? What would be your advice for them?

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                  Stop ignoring the point and acknowledge that being a prick like that does fuck all to help.

                  Again, would you tell somebody with a porn addiction to "stop fucking fapping more than you need, you dumbass. Then go on a date."

                  You're completely ignoring every single issue besides the most obvious one. "Go on a walk" is hard for people with depression because doing fucking anything is hard for depressed people. "Stop stuffing your face" is hard for people with addictions or binge eating issues for obvious reasons. Again, you don't solve anything by being a bastard about it.

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                    You are right that I was an asshole. And for that I really do apologize. But I think the problem isn't all because of addiction and mental health. I think the root of the problem is toxic unhealthy culture normalizing overeating and consuming unhealthy stuff. Do people get addicted to eating in such a culture more often? Do depressed people take to eating as a coping mechanism in such a culture, yeah, they do.

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            I never said that genius. Stop strawmanning my argument. Losing weight involves eating less. There is no way around that.

            • Blurst_Of_Times [he/him,they/them]
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              We need a new version of Godwin's Law, where as the conversation with an edgy internet kid goes on, the probability of the word 'strawmanning' being invoked approaches 1.