There are a variety of reasons, but one of the main ones is on the issue of territorial legitimacy. Imagine if during the U.S. Civil war, the Union conquered all of the South except Texas for some reason. Then instead of trying to reconquer Texas, they just give up and say "oh well, I guess ya'll can be your own country" and just let Texas succeed from the Union. At that point the United States have basically announced to their entire country that they will legitimize separatist movements, which not only will create new separatist movements and strengthen existing ones, but it would also undermine the entire endeavor of retaking the rest of the south in the first place by basically telling them that they could've gotten away with succession.
So when it comes to Taiwan, the island was a territory of China starting in the Qing dynasty, and is currently being run by the government that lost to the communists during the Chinese Civil war, but also with the added dimension of it being protected by a foreign power in the form of the US. So given the situation, China acknowledging Taiwan as an independent entity would not only give a lot of legitimacy to other separatist movements in China (Tibet, Xinjiang, etc.), it could also be seen as a green light for various imperialist or colonialist powers to come in and potentially try and seize Chinese territory for themselves without much backlash from the Chinese government.
TL;DR: Any country that acknowledges a separatist movement, especially without losing a war to said movement first (ex: how USA gained independence from British), immediately throws ownership of the rest of its territory into question and makes the government look weak.
I'm pretty sure this was an independent company that did the censoring. As for Taiwan, it's a US military base. You don't want your enemy to have a close base.
Crazy nationalists, every country has em.
Also, the Chinese government didn't say anything here. It's a capitalist management agency being scared they might lose customers and slapping a token punishment down.
why does south korea have such a bug up its ass about the dprk being acknowledged? legitimising taiwanese separatism hinders chinese reunification., which is one of the cpcs long term goals, notwithstanding the fact that the ccp had nothing to do with this anyway.
The Imperialist countries carved up China in spheres of influence during the so called 'century of humiliation.' An independent Taiwan aligned with the west is seen as a holdover of that era. This also true for Tibet except that place is probably seen as more important as the mythic long march passed through there. The Indian-China war in the sixties was over similar bullshit as the previous border was established by the British empire and therefore considered illegitimate.
Why do people in the PRC have such a big stick up their arses about the acknowledgement of an external government calling itself the legitimate ruler over the mainland and the continued existence of which has only been possible due to its being backed by a foreign power that wants to fuck with Beijing?
I have seen a lot of people calling the Chinese citizens who are not happy about t****n being considered its own entity by foreigners, not just surrounding this event but in general, as being irrationally nationalist and 'brainwashed', but I cannot think of any self-respecting people that would be happy about such a thing, specially considering the vast background to the matter.
I feel like you cant really ignore Taiwan's ties and pacts to the us and us military presence in the region and support for Taiwan in arm sales and military technology, as well as the renewed calls for us military presence in Taiwan.
No, it is not and the only reason it can be as brazen as it is in that regard is because they have daddy us standing behind them.
Are you going to support any and all separatist movements aimed at weakening nations that run contrary to the west's interests because the purity of your ideals demand it? Should have the PRC not taken action and just let HK fall into the hands of the western-backed terrorist because idk bro that sounds authoritarian?
Like, someone said somewhere in this thread “well can you really criticize the US government on Twitch?” And the answer is probably not meaningfully and that’s fucking shitty.
Unless we are looking at different thread, the person in question said 'advocate for overthrowing' not criticising.
Taiwan has a close and necessary economic relationship with China which is its primary export and import source. over 40% of its exports go and 20% of its imports come from China. i agree the topic is more complicated than made out to be but theres certainly valid concerns China has on this
The mainland is absolutely key for their day-to-day functioning, if at least in the form of trading. More importantly, why not try asking that the other way around? Is t´´´´n doing that for the rest of the mainland? Then why call itself the legitimate government of China? Because that is what they do and is what allowing t****n to be recognized as a legitimate government plays into.
Clearly there is someone in the right in this scenario, and is not the ones currently on an island off the coast with no substantiated territorial claims.
And, again, the issue over the technically still ongoing civil war would have been put to rest long ago had it not been due to the y*nks' presence; it is abhorrent that the status-quo of a country's internal affairs has been set due to an external power's influence. It is a matter for concern precisely because it is a tangible risk to to the PRC's sovereignty and stability.
And we most definitively are a really long way from seeing such an endpoint being realistically achieved by anyone, so I do not see how that is important right now.
But sure, they should ignore geopolitical reality and be happy with a y´nk puppet right on their doorstep. Though war is incredibly unlikely to happen, in case it did you can be damn sure one of the first things you would see would be the west using t****n as a bludgeoning club and pulling a stunt like acknowledging them as the legitimate rulers over the mainland.
...which they'll rain down and redistribute evenly among all the peoples of the world, and not like, to their aristocratic friends in the top echelons of society
Honest question, why exactly does China have such a bug up it's ass about Taiwan being acknowledged, even by cartoon characters who play video games?
There are a variety of reasons, but one of the main ones is on the issue of territorial legitimacy. Imagine if during the U.S. Civil war, the Union conquered all of the South except Texas for some reason. Then instead of trying to reconquer Texas, they just give up and say "oh well, I guess ya'll can be your own country" and just let Texas succeed from the Union. At that point the United States have basically announced to their entire country that they will legitimize separatist movements, which not only will create new separatist movements and strengthen existing ones, but it would also undermine the entire endeavor of retaking the rest of the south in the first place by basically telling them that they could've gotten away with succession.
So when it comes to Taiwan, the island was a territory of China starting in the Qing dynasty, and is currently being run by the government that lost to the communists during the Chinese Civil war, but also with the added dimension of it being protected by a foreign power in the form of the US. So given the situation, China acknowledging Taiwan as an independent entity would not only give a lot of legitimacy to other separatist movements in China (Tibet, Xinjiang, etc.), it could also be seen as a green light for various imperialist or colonialist powers to come in and potentially try and seize Chinese territory for themselves without much backlash from the Chinese government.
TL;DR: Any country that acknowledges a separatist movement, especially without losing a war to said movement first (ex: how USA gained independence from British), immediately throws ownership of the rest of its territory into question and makes the government look weak.
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I'm pretty sure this was an independent company that did the censoring. As for Taiwan, it's a US military base. You don't want your enemy to have a close base.
Crazy nationalists, every country has em.
Also, the Chinese government didn't say anything here. It's a capitalist management agency being scared they might lose customers and slapping a token punishment down.
why does south korea have such a bug up its ass about the dprk being acknowledged? legitimising taiwanese separatism hinders chinese reunification., which is one of the cpcs long term goals, notwithstanding the fact that the ccp had nothing to do with this anyway.
The Imperialist countries carved up China in spheres of influence during the so called 'century of humiliation.' An independent Taiwan aligned with the west is seen as a holdover of that era. This also true for Tibet except that place is probably seen as more important as the mythic long march passed through there. The Indian-China war in the sixties was over similar bullshit as the previous border was established by the British empire and therefore considered illegitimate.
I have seen a lot of people calling the Chinese citizens who are not happy about t****n being considered its own entity by foreigners, not just surrounding this event but in general, as being irrationally nationalist and 'brainwashed', but I cannot think of any self-respecting people that would be happy about such a thing, specially considering the vast background to the matter.
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I feel like you cant really ignore Taiwan's ties and pacts to the us and us military presence in the region and support for Taiwan in arm sales and military technology, as well as the renewed calls for us military presence in Taiwan.
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No, it is not and the only reason it can be as brazen as it is in that regard is because they have daddy us standing behind them.
Are you going to support any and all separatist movements aimed at weakening nations that run contrary to the west's interests because the purity of your ideals demand it? Should have the PRC not taken action and just let HK fall into the hands of the western-backed terrorist because idk bro that sounds authoritarian?
Unless we are looking at different thread, the person in question said 'advocate for overthrowing' not criticising.
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Taiwan has a close and necessary economic relationship with China which is its primary export and import source. over 40% of its exports go and 20% of its imports come from China. i agree the topic is more complicated than made out to be but theres certainly valid concerns China has on this
The mainland is absolutely key for their day-to-day functioning, if at least in the form of trading. More importantly, why not try asking that the other way around? Is t´´´´n doing that for the rest of the mainland? Then why call itself the legitimate government of China? Because that is what they do and is what allowing t****n to be recognized as a legitimate government plays into.
Clearly there is someone in the right in this scenario, and is not the ones currently on an island off the coast with no substantiated territorial claims.
And, again, the issue over the technically still ongoing civil war would have been put to rest long ago had it not been due to the y*nks' presence; it is abhorrent that the status-quo of a country's internal affairs has been set due to an external power's influence. It is a matter for concern precisely because it is a tangible risk to to the PRC's sovereignty and stability.
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Black nationalism? Palestinian nationalism? Cuban and Vietnamese nationalism?
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And we most definitively are a really long way from seeing such an endpoint being realistically achieved by anyone, so I do not see how that is important right now.
But sure, they should ignore geopolitical reality and be happy with a y´nk puppet right on their doorstep. Though war is incredibly unlikely to happen, in case it did you can be damn sure one of the first things you would see would be the west using t****n as a bludgeoning club and pulling a stunt like acknowledging them as the legitimate rulers over the mainland.
Because $$$
...which they'll rain down and redistribute evenly among all the peoples of the world, and not like, to their aristocratic friends in the top echelons of society
Apparently the Easter bunny is real too