I was watching "...why Skyrim?" by Razbuten on sloptube this aft and it's so weird that it finally took Starfield for people to realise. Like Fallout 76 wasn't enough, only now are negative things people were first saying about Skyrim in 2012 finally bleeding into mainstream consciousness. It's so wild, like wow they ruined the magic system? The game has worse writing than a PS1 era Mega Man X game??? Skyrim is just shitty Game of Thrones?? Welcome to thirteen years ago!!
Bethesda hasn't made a really good game since 2002, but it'll probably be years before that realisation sinks in.
I have hundreds of hours in the first borderlands but I think the game itself is pretty shit. It completely fails as an fps because your movement speed isn't fast enough to make organic use of cover or treat it as a run n gun, and it's not great as a cover shooter either. It just ends up being a game where you need big enough numbers on your gun and shield to get past the next zone.
The setting, story, and art isn't bad, but without good gameplay none of that can save a game. The only reason I played it so much was because I sometimes wanted a mindless experience where I can watch the numbers go up without thinking too much about anything.
Me having played 200 hours of Borderlands 2 once and hating every second of it for this reason