It's kind of depressing that lgbt spaces here are empty because there's been no attempts to reach out/ reconcile with the existing trans community in chapo or any of their concerns, but there's a big ol post on main weaponizing lgbt identity against china which actually recently took a great stride in providing legal protection for trans comrades seeking medical transition. And with a prominent post in this very community being a cis person questioning the need of affirming pronouns for comrades across the gender spectrum. It's more than ok to pose these questions but it raises the issue of what the priority is in affirmatively making sure there is a space here in chapo for our queer comrades to have a home, vs being a home for cis comrades to affirm their own perceived tolerance.
Have you tried to talk to Jess or I about this yet? Despite what people are saying we do want this place and the discord to be safe and comfortable for trans comrades.
intentions are different from material actions.
okay but we have to know what your concerns are if you want us to take action, like part of the reason why this stuff spiraled out into a mess is because anything that was said was said in public and in a very general way and not so much directed at talking to us than it was talking about, so please, dm me about this, preferably on discord.
I'm not entirely sure what else it is you need to know. I spent a couple of hours yesterday detailing my concerns about merging the lgbt channels on those channels. (liam.bean) That whole message, tbh, made me fell unsafe. Like, that the mod team is so far out of touch that they don't understand why trans folks need a separate space and why the idea of renaming the sad-trans channel "sad-gay" feels like so much trans-erasure. I'm just not sure how to explain it if it's not something you can understand. And I also don't want to get banned for speaking up.
That Marie's post (which I felt was not rude or anything worth banning for) has been deleted and Marie now banned doesn't exactly fill me with confidence that it's even ok to voice those kinds of concerns here.
I wasn't online much if at all yesterday and I don't read back every channel when I do get on, if you don't communicate that you feel unsafe to us then we can't correct for it, I haven't banned anyone for talking to me in my dm's, Marie's post and account was banned because she was one of the first people to engage the mods in bad faith, even before any of the events regarding zara happened.
We were told that everyone would have a "clean slate" on lemmy after being banned from the discord, so why would Marie's actions prior have anything to do with the issue at hand today? Its not any less relevant.
Because the mods are people too and have limited time and energy and interacting with someone who has shown a lot of bad faith in the past is difficult to ignore
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The went out the window when they decided to brigade us not once, but twice now.
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I have put a lot of time into this issue, are you talking about me? and if you're talking about caden, a personal apology was made and given to someone to forward to him.
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You know who to reach out to.
I literally don't, I haven't seen a Mrs.pacman or a limabean account on the discord, I don't understand what's keeping you from messaging me when what my account is on discord is very obvious.
Reach out to the trans comrades that have already tried reaching out to you guys. It's not that hard.
I don't think it's unreasonable to ask the person who just brought up that concern to talk to me or Jess, unless you're saying that there's a level of coordination to where it won't matter who I talk to
except you didn't even ask me. who brought up the greater concern in the first place. All the trans comrades are in the shork server, and I know you know that. No reason to play ignorant.
this has all happened in less than hour, I dunno how fair it is to act like I didn't care to ask you when it was a case of me seeing a comment first and replying to that, I was trying to sort out other conversations and as far as the shork server goes, I have talked to people who have came from their about how difficult it is for me to split focus in a conversation with a group that big, a fact which was also disrespected and not communicated to members of your community.
Don't be like this.