• HamManBad [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      I might get shit for this, but in Wisconsin having a Dem governor has absolutely slowed down the deluge of fascist bullshit we've been putting up with for the past decade and a half. I can't imagine how much worse things would be if Walker was still in power.

      • heggs_bayer [none/use name]
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        3 months ago

        That's fair enough, but somewhat of a moot point when the vote scolding is over the presidential election, where the dems have been worse than useless.

        • HamManBad [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          That's why Walz is specifically effective at de radicalization. If I were a public figure, my opponents would be making commercials highlighting that I said "if the national Democrats were more like DFL, I might vote for them"

      • Wugmeister@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        3 months ago

        Let's think about it this way. The red team and blue team will only band together to beat down anything remotely leftist, so we kinda are limited to organizing in our local communities. Would you rather do leftist work under a old white person who blows hot air about allegedly believing that immigrants are people and that people have inherent human rights, or an old white person who doesn't even pretend to see non-white people as human and vocally opposes basic human rights? That's what voting is for, as I see it.

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        • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          Were you not conscious during the Trump presidency? Remember airports full of lawyers and liberals trying to stop deportations? That was pretty good, right? Where the fuck did they go when Biden got into office and smashed the deportation accelerator? Biden deported more people in his first year than Trump did in four and the liberals have been dead fucking silent.

          So if you're asking which climate I'd rather organize under, it's the one where people actually organize against the executive to stop bad things and that literally only happens when a Republican is in office because liberals are blind.

        • heggs_bayer [none/use name]
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          3 months ago

          Considering they both end up being indistinguishable policy-wise and Mango Mussolini's presidency pushed libs to actually set brunch aside for a bit, I'd much rather take the latter.

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