Me too. The problem is that I'm a cisshit. We seem incapable of forming healthy relationships. I'm especially baffled by heterosexual couples who get married and stay that way for decades while hating each other the entire time? Like what's with these grown-ass men not able to do basic chores? And why do women want to be their mothers? Is it a kink? An elaborate prank? I don't get it.
I think cishet people are prone to very gendered problems in relationships, and in general a lot of relationships from the outside do look terrible. But a lot of it is so normalised that it doesn't seem particularly shocking.
But then I talk to people in queer relationships and realise once you pull back the veil of normative gendered relationships there's a whole new layer of insanity and neuroticism in most people to deal with under that layer anyway.
"Healthy relationships" aren't free of problems, they're healthy because people put in work to maintain them, which includes staying on top of any long-term concerns and addressing new ones as they come up.
You really cannot underestimate how deeply ingrained marriage, having children and buying a house are into the average people's sense of how life is supposed to be lived. Add onto that the fact that our society is structured (or at least used to be structured) in a way that turned that way of life into the only "sensible" one. If community building outside of traditional family structures is an impossible thought, what else is there to life outside of those structures? Even if your marriage is disfunctional or even hateful, it still gives your life structure in a way that in our current society basically nothing else can.
Being able to take a step back and look at those structures and institutions not as god-given or obvious is an ability that the vast majority of people simply do not have.
I can see why a woman may enjoy being motherly to her husband in some ways, but being motherly in the way where you clean up all his messes and remind him to wipe his ass and cook every day? Nah that’s just doing work for free for a man child lol.
Oh I thought you were referring to being an actual mother, not mothering your romantic partner.
Idk I've honestly never cohabited with a romantic partner and at this point am not sure if I ever will. Feels like a bad idea if you have different standards of cleanliness.
Me too. The problem is that I'm a cisshit. We seem incapable of forming healthy relationships. I'm especially baffled by heterosexual couples who get married and stay that way for decades while hating each other the entire time? Like what's with these grown-ass men not able to do basic chores? And why do women want to be their mothers? Is it a kink? An elaborate prank? I don't get it.
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I think cishet people are prone to very gendered problems in relationships, and in general a lot of relationships from the outside do look terrible. But a lot of it is so normalised that it doesn't seem particularly shocking.
But then I talk to people in queer relationships and realise once you pull back the veil of normative gendered relationships there's a whole new layer of insanity and neuroticism in most people to deal with under that layer anyway.
"Healthy relationships" aren't free of problems, they're healthy because people put in work to maintain them, which includes staying on top of any long-term concerns and addressing new ones as they come up.
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You really cannot underestimate how deeply ingrained marriage, having children and buying a house are into the average people's sense of how life is supposed to be lived. Add onto that the fact that our society is structured (or at least used to be structured) in a way that turned that way of life into the only "sensible" one. If community building outside of traditional family structures is an impossible thought, what else is there to life outside of those structures? Even if your marriage is disfunctional or even hateful, it still gives your life structure in a way that in our current society basically nothing else can.
Being able to take a step back and look at those structures and institutions not as god-given or obvious is an ability that the vast majority of people simply do not have.
I've been told it's a very rewarding experience and you feel a lot of love and affection for your children.
I have no interest personally but I see what others get out of it.
I can see why a woman may enjoy being motherly to her husband in some ways, but being motherly in the way where you clean up all his messes and remind him to wipe his ass and cook every day? Nah that’s just doing work for free for a man child lol.
Oh I thought you were referring to being an actual mother, not mothering your romantic partner.
Idk I've honestly never cohabited with a romantic partner and at this point am not sure if I ever will. Feels like a bad idea if you have different standards of cleanliness.
Probably some sort of embellished gender performance.