I was hanging out with a women I went on a few dates with in the early 2010s. I was taken aback by her bad takes that evening, especially the body shaming and gossiping going on about mutual friends. She asks me why I'm vegan and I'm like "oh I went into a slaughterhouse once before, you can't believe...". And she interrupts me "Oh please don't tell me!" Honestly this woman if fine. She's not evil, just a bit bougie and lib. I've met much worse though.
I can't get over all the women I've dated that have been super anti vegan or vegetarian, they were kinda shitty about other stuff later on. At the time it was shitty to fight with and lose someone who I cared about and spent a lot of time with, but in hindsight I'm so lucky they're gone. Quite a few dates I've been on have been fine or positive about veganism, and our friendship has stood the test of time.
I'm sure this is just true for caring about other oppressed groups. Like if a date didn't give a feck about Palestine or queer people, they probably suck. I'm honestly sorry for people that date men, as so many of us have terrible convictions.
I haven't dated in a while, but people here are saying that it's good to get it out of the way to save time. Like you're better off knowing sooner rather than later that your date is a Nazi.
I agree entirely, the intention of my post was to mock the people who think that you shouldn't talk about "politics" with other people in social settings.
I'm going to see someone I dated 20ish years ago at a funeral this weekend who was a vegan at the time and undoubtedly set me on the path to being an 8 year vegan now. I looked at their Facebook and they're not vegan and ranting about how all Palestinians are complicit in taking Israeli hostages 😔
, and ya lib and right-wing vegans definitely exist 
My personal pet peeve is "I'm vegan and I don't need to do anything more to be a good person." No they don't literally say that, but that's the vibe they give.
You can put a positive spin on it, like that person's purpose in life was to set you on the right path.
And now that's complete...
Over time I've found that slaughterhouse talk is just very off-putting to non-vegans. Yes they enjoy the fruits of indefensible acts of torture and murder that would give them PTSD in five minutes if they were witness to it. People are very good at compartmentalizing this if they've been omnivorous since they were born. There is an endless parade of horrors one can find in this world inflicted on both animals and humans. I would not bring any of them up on a date.
If you're actually compatible with an omni (it's possible!) veganism is a sexually transmitted infection so it's probably the best way to convert people anyway.
It's doubly important for me because food is just a love language for me. Having a cute girl snuggle up to me while i'm cooking stir fry for us, taking her out to a nice restaurant, making a big breakfast when she's stayed overnight, these are pretty integral to my dating life and that gets soured when people start whining where the meat is.
It's admittedly gotten much better since i came out and stuck to only dating other trans girls, everybody i've been with in the last 3 years was either vegan herself or flexitarian and perfectly happy with entirely vegan options. That's not necessarily a trans thing, it may be largely because my bubble within the queer community is a lot more progressive than average, but it really makes things easier when you're centering like-minded people in your life. ofc that gets a lot harder when you're out on the apps instead, and don't get me started about the stories that the bi, pan and straight girls i know keep telling. When you check for red flags and wonder if somebody's values are compatible with yours, you're already doing loads better than most dudes out there, it's honestly baffling how many men seem to flat-out refuse to read profiles before they start DMing and just wildly take shots in the dark at everybody that looks remotely hot to them.
It's doubly important for me because food is just a love language for me. Having a cute girl snuggle up to me while i'm cooking stir fry for us, taking her out to a nice restaurant, making a big breakfast when she's stayed overnight, these are pretty integral to my dating life and that gets soured when people start whining where the meat is.
I get it. When I come home with food, my partner likes to open EVERY FUCKING CONTAINER and sample literally everything we have. She gets all guilty cuz it's unusual and she stresses her weight a bit. But you know what, it's adorable. I'm glad af that she's getting pure bliss out of hummus, dal, fruit, cakes, etc.
It's admittedly gotten much better since i came out and stuck to only dating other trans girls
I feel like that's a good way to be.. Sorry the pool is smallish. But I really never see a trans person with a bad POV on the world.
don't get me started about the stories that the bi, pan and straight girls i know keep telling
I almost wish their were apps for vetted lefties. But as soon as it was successful, asshole horny dudes would invade it.
its nice to read about you taking care of yourself in this way :)
good luck on your dates
Oh my partner is vegan and she's like the nicest person ever. Sorry I forgot to add.
Not only is she a loud and outspoken vegan, but she's inspired me to be more vocally annoying online about veganism too.
She's also an atheist, a leftist, and does not want children.
Love her 💚
Fun fact: a big reason why I broke up with my ex is that she's an apologist, even though she excluded animal products from her life and has done so for 7 years. It started to seem like she just personally found animal products disgusting, not that she had any actual ethical position against carnism. It was like she believed it's okay for others to be carnists as long as they aren't disgusted by animal flesh and secretions. That alone was too much incompatibility for me, so my current partner is most certainly a breath of fresh air.
I don't think I could date a carni. The thought of kissing someone with dead body parts in their mouth is extremely revolting.
that's deeply depressing
