i hate my cushy bullshit job where i make obscene amounts of money. should i quit my job and become a teacher? here's what i'm thinking so far:

pros:

  • i won't hate my job anymore
  • my job is a real job where i actually contribute to society
  • summer vacation sounds dope

cons:

  • maybe i still hate my job
  • my job would be a real job where i do work
  • i won't make obscene amounts of money
  • wtf grad school is expensive

alternatively, are there other jobs i should try to do instead? mind you i have no skills and would probably need to go back to school.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    Maybe, but to me, even the opener came loaded with the implication that public school was worthless in general, not just as a career choice.

    Why would be teaching propaganda to kids for poverty wages make you feel better? This is not the way.

    What IS "the way" then? If it's all "teaching propaganda to kids" what else is there? The implications of that statement went beyond individual career choice.

    I left teaching recently, myself. I know very well how bullshit it is right now.

    • Runcible [none/use name]
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      1 month ago

      As a kid I was raised believing teaching was a respected job (along with being a nurse, doctor etc) but I now perceive it to be somewhere along the spectrum of frustrating, demeaning and unsatisfying. Not because of the purpose but the compensation, institutional disregard and public scorn.

      One of my best friends from school is a teacher & he commented to me that he is the only person he knows from when he majored who still teaches.

      I am curious how much of this is consistent with your experience?

      edit: I guess I only read the first half, my bad. The propaganda part is off putting to me as well. I struggle with this in general because often I feel there are assumptions that are more pervasive and more damaging than explicit propaganda (ex US won WWII) but people aren't typically consciously teaching that it just gets communicated somehow.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 month ago

        I edited the above comment too late so I'll put it here, starting with the quote I first responded to.

        Why would be teaching propaganda to kids for poverty wages make you feel better? This is not the way.

        What IS "the way" then? If it's all "teaching propaganda to kids" what else is there? The implications of that statement, particularly that teaching was "teaching propaganda to kids" went beyond individual career choice.

        I left teaching recently, myself. I know very well how bullshit it is right now. Yes, it is terrible and it'd take some public will and government-level forced uprooting against the privatized rot to make a positive difference. I actually agree that it isn't a good career to get into, right now, for someone that just wants to make a positive difference, but it's still necessary work, just like nursing and picking up garbage. The workers deserve better, including better means to do their necessary work.

        • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]
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          1 month ago

          they didn't mean to imply that, they meant that public school teaching in the US or other capitalist countries is teaching propaganda to kids, not the concept of all of public schooling itself. at least i hope that's the idea

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            1 month ago

            they meant that public school teaching in the US or other capitalist countries is teaching propaganda to kids

            Yeah, and until and unless that changes, my question is what could be done for kids that need education, right now. It fucking sucks right now, and that's one of the main reasons I left the profession myself, but that doesn't mean that "shit sucks, just stop trying" should be a society-wide decision ever after.

    • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]
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      1 month ago

      ... teaching good propaganda? idk they weren't implying that ALL public school is doing that, just US or western public school. i see no reason why we have to remove public schools if their purpose is to disseminate information, just that the information being disseminated in the US sucks currently

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 month ago

        just that the information being disseminated in the US sucks currently

        Yes, it does suck. My point, since you've replied to me in four different places, is once again that those kids do need to be educated, somehow, and that public schools are a public necessity unless we want to regress back to an even worse time. It's not a great career choice for most and I left it behind myself, but "it's all propaganda anyway so just end it all" isn't a wise or sustainable long term answer to how fucked up it's gone.