Thread image created by yours truly, depicting Iran and Pakistan very impolitely not asking whether America, on the other side of the planet, is okay with them transporting gas around.


The Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline has long been obstructed by American involvement in the region. Iran completed its section of the pipeline quite quickly, but Pakistan has been unable to finish its construction for a decade due to the fear of falling afoul of American sanctions on Iran. The United States has repeatedly tried to pressure Pakistan to give up the project and obtain gas from other countries instead. Recent articles on the state of the pipeline are contradictory, with some stating that Iran or Pakistan have given up on the pipeline while American sanctions persist. Pakistani officials reject this framing, saying that they are still working with Iran to try and get the project completed somehow. Nonetheless, Iran is becoming increasingly frustrated and is threatening a legal battle and a demand for reparations.

Meanwhile, back in Niger, the $13 billion under-construction pipeline connecting Nigeria and other West African countries to Spain and Italy will likely face delays due to the sanctions applied by the West and ECOWAS on Niger. Those following the European gas fiasco will be aware that while Spain and Italy have been impacted by the energy crisis, they have been very busy making deals with African countries to replace their Russian gas, and thus stand a better chance than Germany of making it through the crisis with their industries somewhat intact. The coup has thrown a wrench into their plans, though they can still obtain some gas from northern African countries.

And, last but not least, America tried for years to stop the construction of the Nord Stream pipelines between Germany and Russia, which culminated in them deciding to blow them up late last year.

All in all - the United States really does not like it when countries build up energy infrastructure and gain some independence from them.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

This week's first update is here in the comments.

This week's second update is here in the comments.

This week's third update is here in the comments.

Links and Stuff

The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
    ·
    1 year ago

    Yeah obviously once they sent troops in NATO did sanctions but the idea that that would lead to what you said is a pipe dream. Obviously if they somehow got Russia on a silver platter they'd loot it, as they would anywhere. My question doesn't concern events after Russia sent troops in, my question concerns the events leading up to that. I am not inclined to believe that NATO's plans from the start relied on sanctions being enough to bring down Russia as that's an extremely unreliable approach.

    • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
      ·
      1 year ago

      NATO actually started the sanctions before the invasion. People were back then were actually saying "Wait, if we threatened Russia with sanctions if they invaded and then sanctioned them anyway, what is stopping Russia from invading?".

      The biggest sanction on Russia is probably being cut of from the Swift network and that was put in place after the invasion. Along with the foreign reserves being seized.

      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
        ·
        1 year ago

        I stand corrected on that point, but I still don't think NATO went down this path thinking that all they had to do was press the sanction button and watch Russia collapse.

        • ChairmanSpongebob [he/him]
          ·
          1 year ago

          coming to this pretty late, but yeah, we'll never really know since we can't get in their heads but there might be some credence to that believe among US policy planners as they did a similar thing to Allende's Chile with the whole "make the economy scream" sanctions.

          That was of course coupled with a US-supported military coup with Pinochet. They are also using sanctions to encourage domestic discord in Cuba and Venezuela to ultimately achieve a regime change. Economic sanctions are definitely in the coup-toolbox right?

          • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
            ·
            1 year ago

            Absolutely they're in the toolbox. But that's not the same thing as being reliable enough to be treated as the lynchpin of this whole plot, especially with a country as large as Russia. And did they just fail to consider the difficulty of co-ordinating sanctions with places like India, let alone China? What, they had this whole plot years in the making that was completely dependent on sanctions, and then right before it pops off, they start saber-rattling and starting shit with China? None of it lines up and there are more plausible explanations that don't rely on that assumption.