It's really frustrating, I was talking to someone about how successful China has been in de-radicalization of reactionaries. But they responded to this by saying they're only successful because, and I quote "put them all in concentration camps and killed them"
Has anyone here been successful in deprogramming people about this topic? If so any good sources I can use to dissuade them? I tried telling them that the UN report, if you read it, just says that there's concerns about abuse by internment offcials, and there's no evidence of genocide. But when I say this they just dismiss it as if the UN is controlled by the PRC. It's like a religion to liberals to believe anything bad about China and can get really frustrating.
People only ever bring up Xinjiang to dismiss China. It's nothing more than a trump card: "Oh, you think we should be less hostile toward China and listen to the Chinese? Uyghur genocide Taiwan independence Hong Kong protests Tiananmen square!!!"
You're never going to get through to people without confronting their chauvinism first because they can always pull another reason to hate China out of their ass. Part of that is investigating why they want to believe against China in the first place. Is it cope? Scapegoating? Plain racism?
Does anti-communist brainworms count?
I just don't get it, like okay, be anti-commie if you want, but why the fuck do you want to overthrow foreign governments? It's hypocritical coming from supposedly pro-peace libs.
Because they’ll all be replaced by wholesome 100 keanu chungus pupperino western european style governments with perfect scores in the Freedom Eagle Democracy Ranking, just ask Yeltsin
to open new markets and destroy fixed capital, both of which will temporarily paper over the falling rate of profit. that's not a conscious motivation for the squishy libs, but they will follow obediently the mainstream progression as bourgeois media demonizes the enemy and invents atrocities. pro-peace libs are against all wars except the current ones
China is as real as Mordor to most of us, it's an idea that needs to exist in order for people to feel better about themselves
There always needs to be a greater evil to hold the US up against. This is the only thing keeping the guns pointed at the rabble rousers instead of the reptiles in their marble buildings in D.C. People will not only accept, but defend any atrocity as long as they believe the alternative is unthinkably worse.
They always seem to forget that there is not a single nation-state on the planet that recognizes the island of Taiwan as independent from a Chinese state.
Best part was the "Chinese Colonizers Get Out" banner. I can't believe China is colonizing an indigenous British city in checks notes Asia. Another highlight was the mindless propaganda-regurgitating redditor who posted the "Free Hong Kong" graphic, but in a display of their incredible laziness and lack of genuine fucks to give about the people there, translated the "free" to mean literally "free of charge" in the Chinese text.
One hundred gazillion dead bicycles never forget