It's really frustrating, I was talking to someone about how successful China has been in de-radicalization of reactionaries. But they responded to this by saying they're only successful because, and I quote "put them all in concentration camps and killed them"

Has anyone here been successful in deprogramming people about this topic? If so any good sources I can use to dissuade them? I tried telling them that the UN report, if you read it, just says that there's concerns about abuse by internment offcials, and there's no evidence of genocide. But when I say this they just dismiss it as if the UN is controlled by the PRC. It's like a religion to liberals to believe anything bad about China and can get really frustrating.

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    3 months ago

    I go "how could you be worried about China at a time like this, with Saddam Hussein getting closer and closer to obtaining a nuke"

    To be less facetious, it's easier now that we see what an actual genocide looks like in Palestine, you can just ask "If these impoverished people with unreliable communications to the outside world still have smartphones and internet, if they can upload their suffering despite every attempt to censor it, then where the fuck are all the horrifying gory videos from Xinjiang, a place that is not under seige or blockade? Don't you think if such videos existed, we in Amerika would never hear the end of it?"

    And hey, if China is committing a genocide against Muslims, how come the US isn't arming and supporting them?

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      3 months ago

      how come the US isn't arming and supporting them

      fedposting reading this like 'but we do dammit!'