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  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    I think I'm the loudest person on this instance in terms of saying "Trotsky should have been assassinated sooner, or else left in a dungeon to rot at the outset of his expulsion" and I just want to offer that not having an official position on Stalin/Trotsky in the year of our lord 2024 should not be a dealbreaker for a party that you think otherwise holds up. Being trot? Fine, fuck 'em. But just abstaining? That's really not such a horrendous thing even if I do disagree with it.

  • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    I can understand the aversion to Trots but PSL is pretty consistently anti-imperialist so I don't see what the issue would be with them not expliticly denouncing Trotsky? It'd be a different story if they parroted State Department propaganda.

  • starkillerfish [she/her]
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    3 months ago

    PSL seems to officially hold no stance on stalin or trotsky which is just...weird

    this is not serious posting

  • Edamamebean [she/her]
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    3 months ago

    There's never gonna be a perfect ready made socialist party for you to join. Pick one and do your best to make it and the world better. What specific organization you're with is way way less important than the fact that you're organized somehow.

  • Barx [none/use name]
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    3 months ago

    I think it is okay for PSL to not have a loud position on Trotsky. They are actually an offshoot of Trotskyist party splits of splits of splits adopting a "AES projects are real and should be defended" line, which contradicts the most toxic aspect of Anglo Trotskyism. The thing to criticize is the extent to which they retain other holdovers from Trotskyism, which I won't list out but are something to think on critically (and productively!) if you join.

    It's also okay to be a commie in DSA if you can handle the constant liberalism around you. You can recruit and educate more commies using it. The Red Star caucus does this to an extent. But it really only works if you have a high tolerance for liberalism and can have 2+ people in that caucus in your local chapter.

    There are also often local orgs of commies that all got sick of the same things you are. They all have different names but they will often be in coalitions that are appealing to commies. Anti-imperialist work or mutual aid work, for example.