Realized the other day that I've been subjected to years and years of propaganda about Russia and Putin. Even correcting for it a bit in my head, it still doesn't seem like an amazing place to live. But is it better or worse for the average Joe?

My impression is that its 2nd world. Lots of modern technology, but shitty and like 20 years behind. Not progressive in terms of LGBT or women's rights. Definitely not a democracy and basically run by plutocrats.

Anyone have personal experience there?

  • CompactTie34 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Awesome that you liked it!

    My old boss would always buy a new phone and then bring back his family his used one

    Ahha I use a 2015 phone as well... and I live in Australia. Now seriously, consumerism is on the rise in Russia. Every year, thousands line up in lines for the release of a new Iphone. Can everyone get one? sure. But its expensive. Any product is available for money in Russia. The problem is that money is concentrated in the rich cities (just how capitalism works) I cant speak for Ukraine, but I am aware they are far behind in certain areas. Unlike Russia, IMO ukraine is nearly fully de-industrialised. Their main export is Labor and Sunflower seeds. My family left the Donbass after the war began and settled in Moscow. They say that sadly Ukraine is extremely poor. Thinking about it makes me want to cry, tbh.