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Really feels like he's confusing social democrats and socialists.
He probably doesn't see it as confusion he's said this type of stuff several times, he's referred to the socialist party in portugal, which is the local center-left social-democratic social-liberal governing party, as "socialists" when discussing "european socialism" and electoral politics plenty of times.
And to a degree it's true that some people INSIDE these parties do believe they are socialists and that they're doing socialism but I don't think any of these parties actual leaderships have cared about transitioning for decades
Either way he's right that these parties don't really demand nationalization on principle like parties to their left do.
He probably doesn't see it as confusion he's said this type of stuff several times, he's referred to the socialist party in portugal, which is the local center-left social-democratic social-liberal governing party, as "socialists" when discussing "european socialism" and electoral politics plenty of times. And to a degree it's true that some people INSIDE these parties do believe they are socialists and that they're doing socialism but I don't think any of these parties actual leaderships have cared about transitioning for decades
Either way he's right that these parties don't really demand nationalization on principle like parties to their left do.